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    It's a wild thing. So the term grew out of the manosphere actually, it was mainly a term for present fathers who steered their boys away from that garbage because they recognized it was only going to hurt them. It kind of grew from there to encapsulate everything they hate. Now, they associate beards with hipsters, dads, LGBT+, nerds who like games, music, books, theatre, and basically any man with a soul and two brain cells to rub together, which is precisely who they see as the enemy because they're so transparently evil.

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  • [–] 151 points 3 weeks ago (18 children)

    So basically a wholesome father with a big bushy beard.

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  • [–] 100 points 3 weeks ago (15 children)

    Exactly. They've been working real hard to make it about gas masks in the military, which is a thing, but that's not why they're going off about it. "Beardos and Weirdos" specifically is a dog-whistle for men who actually have honestly held values, don't consider sex, violence, and substance abuse the point of life, and try to be a mentor, a partner, a part of a community or who otherwise contradicts their narrow, machismo-laced, lecherous and reductive definition of "Man."

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  • [–] 51 points 3 weeks ago

    Look here now, a man can enjoy sex, violence, and substance abuse(not necessarily in that order) a whole lot without it becoming a part of their personality. Plenty of us are happy to be degenerates in private

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  • [–] 25 points 3 weeks ago (1 child)

    Oh ya I get it, just wanted to shorten your more complex definition for some folks. I can hardly comprehend the amount of fucking idiocy and blind hate occurring in the us gov right now. They shit all over the so-called values they very vaguely pretend to support.

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  • [–] 23 points 3 weeks ago (2 children)

    No it’s just a racist dog whistle. By far the group that gets the most facial hair waivers in the military are black men. They just don’t want blacks in the military anymore.

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  • [–] 16 points 3 weeks ago* (1 child)

    To explain the facial hair wavers to my fellow straight-hair-phenotypes: forcing to shave too closely, can lead to really big, painful infections and scars from ingrown hairs if you have curly-phenotype hair.

    You can shave close enough for a gas mask to work, but in an organization that had its rules build around the bodily and cultural "normal" of white people, you might still need a facial hair waver.

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  • [–] 6 points 3 weeks ago

    Yeah the waivers are definitely a good thing. Black men often have very coarse, tightly wound facial hair. Some of the dudes I served with would get the worst ingrowns and without a waiver they'd still have to just shave over them, causing nasty sores.

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  • [–] 3 points 3 weeks ago (3 children)

    Damn, and here I was thinking it was about no-shave chits (which has racial undertones, because black men are more prone to razorbumps (basically ingrown hairs which can be extremely painful)).

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  • [–] 2 points 3 weeks ago (2 children)

    I mean, it's the US, you dig into anything deep enough and you can find racist undertones, because American society is built on racism. That said the particular phrase "Beardos and Weirdos" did in fact evolve out of the manosphere to describe any man of any race who didn't fall in line with them ideologically. Like so much of what they do, it just happens to also particularly disadvantage black men by virtue of their ideal being grounded in "whiteness."

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  • [–] 24 points 3 weeks ago (6 children)

    Specifically in the military it refers to those in favor of loosening facial hair standards beyond just tiny mustaches, plus some service members that discovered and successfully exploited the "Heathen loophole."

    Really it's just Pete's preference toward big burly white hairless men that will follow his commands.

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  • [–] 14 points 3 weeks ago (2 children)

    A tiny mustache that fits under a gas mask 🤔

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  • [–] 43 points 3 weeks ago (6 children)

    A beard or long hair for men has always been a sign of rejection of conforming to social authority.

    Hair is the best symbol of rebellion as it is difficult to defect from, takes a long time to grow long, and is accessible to everyone. You can recognize a hippie with their tie-dye shirt and reflective sunglasses. They signal to themselves and others that they are opposed to the Vietnam war and the establishment in general. But when they go to the office, for a swim, to the gym, etc. they go back to conforming to the rest of society. The hippie with long hair is at all times signaling their rejection to the establishment and is also signaling that they have been rejecting this for many years. The hippie who only commits to the tie-dye shirt and sunglasses can take it off when under scrutiny and put it back on when convenient.

    Hair has no nerve cells. Cutting hair is completely painles. If someone won’t even listen to authority telling them to cut their hair, what makes you think they’ll listen to authority for anything else? Long hair subconsciously scares authority because the legitimacy of said authority is constantly challenged. This is my hypothesis for why being clean shaven and short hair has become a requirement in many militaries, but never a militia. It is the easiest way to get someone to subconsciously be comfortable with submitting to authority.

    Some examples of "beardos" who use their hair as a symbol of rebellion:

    • Koreans during Japanese Imperialism
    • The Khalsa
    • Indian saints, regardless of religion
    • Hippies in the US
    • Brazilian communists during the dictatorship
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  • [–] 30 points 3 weeks ago (5 children)

    Jesus. Jesus was a beardo. A real socialist hippie kind of guy in sandals and robes and long hair and a beard.

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  • [–] 3 points 3 weeks ago (2 children)

    To be fair, Jesus would only be useful in a military if he abandoned his principles and went Doctor Manhattan on everybody.

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  • [–] 5 points 3 weeks ago

    Nah, the guy who whipped money changers outside the temple and said “sell all your possessions and buy a sword to defend the poor” would do just fine. He was canonically into peace, but not pacifism

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