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I'm sure people here can empathize with having all the tech wizards get burnt out and leave, and all the various teething problems but this is a bit much... lemmy has its issues but plenty of sites larger and smaller than beehaw are getting on just fine. Perhaps the lib sysadmins are just going back to brunch?

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[–] [email protected] 12 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (5 children)

Do you know why? This piece is the shortest of many essays they've got about what they're trying to achieve and why. The basic gist is that they want to make a kind, supportive online community as a refuge for marginalized people. It's an anti-dunking community, so definitely not everyone's cup of tea, but I'm curious what about them might cause a negative view.

Edit: I really appreciate all the information and perspective ❤️ thanks, everyone

[–] [email protected] 46 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Do you know why?

They pre-emptively defederated from Hexbear (more than a year before we even had the ability to federate) making up the excuse that hatespeech(lmao yeah ok suuuure) was their reason for doing so. The reality is that they have been anti-communists from the start, they are an explicitly neoliberal project with the intent of grooming their users into neoliberalism, but this goal must remain secret so they couldn't just say "we defederated from hexbear because they're socialists", hence the lies.

As you can probably imagine, this creates a lot of animosity here.

[–] [email protected] 31 points 1 year ago

Anti-dunking inherently means pro-dogwhistle

[–] [email protected] 26 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Most of us became aware of them when they made an announcement in the midst of the Reddit exodus red scare accusing us of bigotry and hate speech, so our first broad impression was that they are (administrated by) fucking morons who are perfectly comfortable lying about other communities.

[–] [email protected] 21 points 1 year ago

Since I don't have any personal experience, I'm not sure, but maybe someone else will chime in. Certainly their reputation is for being aggressively liberal in the worst ways

[–] [email protected] 8 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Their instance sucks. They're just libs with a massive civility fetish. The only credit I'll give them is they at least aren't trying to recreate Reddit without spez like the rest of the Ledditor instances. It actually would make sense for a civility fetish instance that doesn't actually want to recreate Reddit to have second thoughts about staying on a shitty Reddit clone.