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I don't know much about UK politics, but assigning Trumpian nicknames immediately makes me think you're wrong.
I may kill the homeless, disabled, elderly and the children but youre mean to me and that's worse
Not what I said in the slightest. For all I know Keir vacations at Epstein's island and punches grandmas for fun. Just suggesting that OP can refrain from name calling and stick to facts.
Hey, if you think hurling insults helps your position, then go for it, just seems pointless at best, and counter-productive at worst.
Oh no, we're being counterproductive on the obscure communist shitposting website!! Imagine how much more productive we could be if we didn't call world leaders names!
Shit-posting is a tool of the bourgeoisie
Yeah man, the proletariat has never ever engaged in graffiti, articles and name-calling ever. You're definitely not just using words you don't know the meaning of to sound smart
This position doesn't need helping. Everyone already hates his guts.
Me when depression
Yeah let's tone police people calling out the ruling class, that'll fix things. It's just a lack of civility that's the problem here. Not actual systemic violence getting ramped up daily by fascists while all liberals do about it is calling for the violence to be applied more competently.
Its not a matter of tone policing or civility. Its using lane insults instead of calling out the actual policies.
Just calling someone a mean name doesn't help, actually calling them on their shit does.
you could see "kid starver" and be prompted to look up when he took food out of the mouths of hungry children, or you could do whatever the hell this was
You have called literally zero people on their shit, tone policing is all you have engaged in and you fundamentally do not understand that people less privileged than you feel actual anger and terror at our increasing opression. You are upset that society is less polite than it was ten years ago, i am upset because i and everybody i love may be in a death camp ten years from now. Fuck you.
Well, you've obviously missed my point entirely, and that's probably my fault. But at this point it seems further debate would be pointless.
Much love.
"You see, before we even started this debate (lol who is the moderator, what was the pre-approved subject matter, you debate pervert, it's a conversation not a debate) I decided that my position is the universally rational and correct one, therefore there can only be two possible outcomes where you do not agree with me, either you misunderstand my position due to my lack of ability to communicate my position, or you are irrational and therefore there is no point in engaging in further dialogue, and I will insinuate both, as opposed to understanding that they may have an alternative perspective that is valid even if I do not agree with it or even that with my arguments not having had any persuasive affect that my perspective is not as universally rational as I thought."
You're such a fucking sophist shithead.
Your point seriously isn't hard to miss you reddit loser pissbaby, you just keep backpedaling.
You are suggesting that we should we refrain from using effective agitational propaganda rhetorical devices and instead use only language that will bore most normal people to sleep? We should not employ any rhetorical tool that helps to get the message across but instead take the "polite and civil high ground" and lose nobly rather than play dirty as our enemies do? Is that what you are saying?
Nope, it seems we've completely failed to communicate.
You're saying that name calling is childish and Trumpian, and so anyone who does it is wrong.
This, ironically, is a childish way to think about name calling. In the real world, it's effective to give your enemies shorthand names to highlight how bad they are. Should we not do things that are effective simply because Trump does them too?
In case you didn't notice, he won.
“I don’t know anything but I have an opinion anyway”
Have you considered knowing anything?
Given that you admit being ignorant on the subject you're opining on, why should anybody give a fuck what you 'think'?
I'm not opining on UK politics, but rather the way you're presenting the information. I may know little to nothing about internal UK politics, but I'm very familiar with degradational rhetorical language, and how it can damage ones position. Sorry if my two cents are unwanted, but I'll share them regardless
shut the fuck up wesley
Starmer's poisiton is that of sitting prime minister of the UK. That is not a position worthy of protection, it is a position that needs to be actively dismantled.
Then actually call out policies. Lame insults do nothing to achieve the goal of dismantling anything, they just entrench your position as an unserious effort.
Fuck off you smarmy loser.
No thank you
what if the nicknames are derived from policy?
They called out the policy by calling him kid starver
them pearls aren't gonna clutch themselves I guess
When you know nothing and so jump to the defense of perhaps the most unpopular prime minister since Chamberlain just to stick it to the tankies.
I didn't defend anyone?
cool story liberal
Thanks, I thought so too.
Skill issue
great point, lib