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[-] plyth@feddit.org 0 points 12 hours ago* (last edited 12 hours ago)

to close capability gaps

What are the gaps?

domestic companies in Germany currently receive 60% of defense orders — double the share recorded in 2020

Which must mean US spendig went from 60% to 30% and not that Germany stopped buying from the EU.

The European Commission is expected to present a package by early July aimed at creating a single market for defense. The objective is to reduce fragmentation and lower the costs of growing the defense industry.

What does that mean? The following doesn't make sense.

We need to find a way to balance the [existing] bottom-up approach with much more top-down influence,” he told the audience on Wednesday.

In his view, European military doctrines should follow Ukraine’s example by better integrating innovation and smaller players into procurement processes and defense planning.

That won't work. Smaller players means fragmentation.

The EU has learned nothing from Boeing's dominance. They are bound to create big players that fix bad products with lawyers and corruption.

The national approaches are top down. To call that bottom up and assume that it will be better when the EU dominates it sounds like a very dangerous idea to me.

[-] Quittenbrot@feddit.org 2 points 11 hours ago

What are the gaps?

You know. I've literally told you only yesterday. What are you doing here?

[-] Ooops@feddit.org 2 points 10 hours ago

The things you list there are NATO gaps, based on NATO's, or more correctly the US' ambition to project power and play world police.

Why do we need heavy air transport capabilties when we have rail lines? How is Ukraine right now handling destruction of Russian air defense (not even speaking about their actual performance vs what they should be able to do on paper) with just a fraction of the EU's SEAD/DEAD capabilties? How are they even operating without the US sharing data for more than a year? Might Europeans actually be able to gather information about a neighbour on the same land mass effectively with less ressources? And why is the ability for nuclear annihilation not enough, but the ability to destroy the planet another 50 times after that is somehow a gap?

Yeah, we know. NATO is weaker without the US, but that's true for any member. Just because some clown in the White House is too stupid to realize this and plans artic warfare after alienating basically 95% of NATO's artic capabilities or getting a strait blokced by mines while insulting allies with the actual demining capabilities, we don't need to make the same stupid mistake. The US capabilities mostly align with US requirements. Ones that are no longer NATO requirements when the US decides to not be a part anymore.

[-] HobbitFoot 1 points 7 hours ago

You need heavy air capabilities for two reasons.

First, most of the EU's frontier has non-European gauge track. So, it doesn't help to be able to rely on rail when you have to stop rail shipments well behind the front lines. Upgrading the rail is going to be a generational project.

Second, rail infrastructure can be destroyed and it is generally harder to get rail infrastructure back up after being bombed. Not being able to deploy forces while you wait for repairs.

[-] Ooops@feddit.org 1 points 6 hours ago* (last edited 5 hours ago)

most of the EU’s frontier has non-European gauge track

Adapting to Western track gauge (thus also not running on the standard Russia uses for their logistics would indeed be a worthwhile investment in a countries defense, doubling also as a investment into civilian transport capabilities.

Second, rail infrastructure can be destroyed and it is generally harder to get rail infrastructure back up after being bombed

Reality disagrees, heavily so as Russia is demonstrating for years now. And you're probably underestimating the complexity of keeping runways of a quality, width and length to support heavy transports operational. Anti-runway bombs and missiles are a whole class of weapons developed just for that reason.

PS: Speaking of... is this not accurate?

Sorry to tell you, but given the existence of Kaliningrad and Belarus the actual front line will not be far from Poland. (And Scandinavia and Finland are mostly irrelevant for this discussion as neither flight nor rail will be the primary mode of transportation to get there.)

[-] HobbitFoot 1 points 5 hours ago

Regarding adapting non-Western gauge track, it is worth making the transition. The item that I addressed and you dodged is timeline.

Regarding Russia rebuilding its rail infrastructure, Russia has invested a significant amount of money in military engineering brigades to repair rail corridors. Also, Russia isn't fighting off an invading force.

You're still leaving out Finland and the Baltics. It also depends on what Russia may attempt to take back. Putin's current goals appears to be reestablishing control over Soviet territory. That puts the Baltics at risk. You could see Russia attempt to take the Baltics similar to how it took the Crimean Peninsula and make the EU choose if it is worth it to conduct a war to liberate the Baltics like Ukraine had to debate liberate the Crimean Peninsula.

[-] Ooops@feddit.org 1 points 1 hour ago* (last edited 1 hour ago)

You’re still leaving out Finland and the Baltics.

I explicitly mentioned Finland (transport by ship instead of rail or air) and implicitly addressed the Baltics as any attack on them will start with an attempt to close the Suwalki gap between Kalinigrad and Belarus, which makes Eastern Poland the front line.

and you dodged is timeline

Some rail lines in the Baltics were already reworked, some were build new, years ago with a new track guage not matching the former Russian one but intentionally not to EU standard. So I'm not addressing the timeline because there was obviously no interest in the first place.

[-] plyth@feddit.org 2 points 11 hours ago
[-] Quittenbrot@feddit.org 2 points 11 hours ago

Looking for engagement.

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