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For a while, long before Teslas were around, my wife went through a phase where she didn't want a car with electronic door locks, "in case we crash into a retention pond."
So it came time for a new car, and while I'm talking with the sales people about price and such, all she wants to know is if she can get it without electronic locks. It seemed like she'd pay double if it didn't have the e-locks.
Finally I said, "I've never gone into a retention pond, and I don't know anyone who has ever gone into a retention pond. It seems like the real solution to the retention pond problem isn't skipping electronic door locks, it's STAYING OUT OF RETENTION PONDS! Let's try that solution first. if you go into a retention pond, then we'll discuss getting rid of e-locks."
It's been about 30 years, and I still don't know anyone whose gone into a retention pond, including my wife. But she still mentions the lock thing whenever we get a new car.
Crash into water is a thing, and it kills about 400 Americans per year. You do need to open the windows immediately and exit the vehicle through a window if it happens in order to survive.
Out of 350 million people? I'll take my chances.
And I keep a window breaking tool in the door for just such an occasion.
Thats completely reasonable, but be aware that most cars made in the past decade have laminated side windows where a tool like that probably won't work.
The premise of this logic is wholesale problematic.
You can use the same logic and say:
...etc
Same reasoning/logical framework applied to different problem areas.
The real solution to poverty is just not being poor.
Now where's my Nobel Peace Prize?
You're right, electronic door locks and windows should be banned, because a handful of people couldn't drive well enough to avoid going in a pond.
Dude, YOU are the one making a Federal case out of a 30 year old humorous personal marital anecdote. Check yourself, it was a fucking joke. I'll bet you're a blast at parties.
Don't tell your wife, but there are whole youtube channels on this. They go around searching for missing people in bodies of water. They find more missing people than I would've thought.
How many of them crashed in there vs how many were dumped after being murdered?
if you watch those videos most of them are the former category. The other common thread is that it often happens at night. They're usually found by the private investigators retracing the suspected routes of the missing person and then using a drone to scope out bodies of water along those routes -That alone is often enough to find people that went missing twenty+ years ago
IDK but tired/drunk probably makes the bulk of it.
Hmmm...I want to try to look this up, but also am not sure how to go about it without getting put on a list...
Youtube channels Adventures with purpose, echo divers.
This is probably gonna make me sad, but thanks!
it is sad but it's incredibly interesting, too.
Which is hilarious because:
A. Virtually all electronic locks can ^also^ be operated manually.
there are all sorts of people that have gone into retention ponds only once in there life.They didn't come back out alive.
But electronic locks don't stop you from opening the door. Or it shouldn't I pull the handle door opens up.