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mocking and quoting bigots I've seen so far

:liberalism: turns to pit "you know it's hexbear when the tankie pronoun parade shows up to force pictures of pigshit in front of you!"* real quick

[*this is paraphrased, I can't remember the exact original quote]

Or "so suddenly I'm Hitler because i think people calling themselves Fae gender is dumb"

Or "why should i need to learn a new set of different pronouns for every person I meet?" (this followed two comments after "I'm literally not a transphobe, I work with plenty of trans colleagues who feel safe around me" (average lib being scratched in real time by having to acknowledge neopronouns))

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All of these shitheads claimed to be allies when they started interacting but our brilliant pronoun tags immediately made them out themselves as the bigots they are who only pretend to be allies because it looks bad to be openly and proudly transphobic

TL;DR: pitmaduro-katana-1hexbear-non-binary

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[–] [email protected] 71 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Makes me think of those polls where people think that like 30% of America is trans. Don't like 1% or so of trans people use neopronouns?

[–] [email protected] 58 points 1 year ago (1 children)

From my sample size all of my friends and most of the people I meet are trans because of social things I attend, and I've only met one person in real life who uses neopronouns. Really cool ze/zir.

[–] [email protected] 38 points 1 year ago (2 children)

The only one I've run into is they/them and they're not even that upset when people slip up. Just don't like when people slip up and refuse to at least try.

[–] [email protected] 38 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Wild, I feel like one out of every three people I know irl uses they/them

[–] [email protected] 16 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I do live in the south and am not really part of any big LGBT community irl. The local leftist orgs tend to have a higher concentration, but I was just talking about people who I personally am close with.

There are a good amount of trans people I know, but they tend to use gendered pronouns

[–] [email protected] 17 points 1 year ago (1 children)
[–] [email protected] 13 points 1 year ago (1 children)

We have a local group of old lesbians here that drive around main Street in their trucks at the end of each pride month honking horns and flying flags and are generally well received. We also have one of the gayest downtown service industries in the region and I love it

[–] [email protected] 11 points 1 year ago (1 children)
[–] [email protected] 12 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

It's awesome that the local biker bar employs a trans comedian and none of the chuds out here care, they all love her lol

Definitely a weird dichotomy to live in. The intersection of small southern town hospitality and general latent conservatism with very progressive and similarly friendly leftist folk. We've got it good out here for now, especially because we can openly discuss communism and unionization everywhere and no one bats an eye.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 year ago (1 children)

damn wherever you are sounds pretty dope

[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 year ago (1 children)

It's definitely way more tolerable than other places. There's still issues with chuds, but they tend to avoid the town center and focus on huffing each others farts and fumes in strip mall parking lots about 10 miles outside of town

[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 year ago

Left friendly small town sounds like the perfect place, particularly if the chuds are too scared to go try to stir shit up in the town center. Enjoy it!

[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I had a student a couple of years ago use it/her which was a genuinely tough one to get used to saying. As with most people, though, it was very nice and understanding as long as you made an effort.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

"it" is the one that I have real reservations about, not because of the individual using it, but because it's very much a slur leveled against trans people and queer people generally. I'd be extremely uncomfortable addressing someone as "it" in public bc to any passerby it would probably sound exactly like a big white cis guy using slurs against queer people. I guess I'll just have to deal with it, but I really hope folks will step in to defend me if that admittedly very unlikely situation ever comes up.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago

Yep, that was exactly my hang-up too--talking that way felt dehumanizing. It was a great opportunity for some self-crit, though, and eventually I came to the conclusion that it isn't my job or place to decide what is and isn't dehumanizing to another human, and that my discomfort with saying it was all on me, not the person. If that's what someone genuinely wants to be called, and feels validated and seen by others using that language, then fuck my own personal reservations about it.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

ive met 1 person irl that uses neopronouns at our lgbt community center, I've met maybe 1000+ trans people there because they come to ask us for healthcare providers a lot. we have a sticker printing machine so they can get neopronoun stickers, and its only ever been used that one time

tbh i think a lot of people think it might be too burdensome to use neopronouns in a casual context, so they self censor it and default to they/them which everyone knows how to use.