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[–] [email protected] 87 points 2 days ago (12 children)

I know it's fun to dunk on the asshole ruining our country, but I don't think we should be in the habit of sharing shopped images. That's what the extremists do, and then claim it's real. We have to be better than them. Plus, they'll use us distributing the memes as evidence of "Dems spreading fake news!"...

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

It probably is shopped because Trump wears adult diapers and when those fail, they don’t fail right as the bunghe. A brown stain below his hip or down the inside of his thigh would be more likely.

All that said, it’s an open secret that the man shits himself all day long. He’s old and it’s a thing that happens.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 1 day ago (1 children)

No taking the high ground is what got us where we are today.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (2 children)

High Ground my fuckin ass.

Theres a billion things that he and republicans have legitimately done, that can be used to dunk on them, and criticize them, and attack them over. Up to and even including shitting himself, Theres plenty of stories of staff talking about the stench on The Apprentice. Plenty of pictures showing his actual, depends poofed ass.

And you choose to just run with lies and make shit up.

Thats not high ground.

Thats, at best, pure fucking uninspired laziness, and at worse.. Its downright republican infiltrator/propagandist activity, muddying the waters and trying to discredit actual, factual shit.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 23 hours ago (1 children)

I know, right? You don't have to make shit up to make Trump look like a dickhead. Everything he says, does and believes should give you plenty of material to do that.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 22 hours ago

Exactly. the things to legitimately use are as lush, fruitful and plentiful as the densest jungle.

yet people wanna pretend to be in a barren desert and defend mirages instead.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 day ago

muddying the trousers*

[–] [email protected] 9 points 1 day ago

Naw, fuck em. They’re going to accuse that anyways.

[–] [email protected] 47 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago) (1 children)

We have to be better than them by not being inhumane fucks sending 4 year old cancer kids to gulags, not by not fighting dirty.

Use every tool available to weaken Trumps image. Make the world think he’s an infirm senile fuck who can’t even go an hour without shitting himself.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 day ago

Make the world think he’s an infirm senile fuck who can’t even go an hour without shitting himself.

Make the world see a simple truth. Easier said than done, apparently.

[–] [email protected] 33 points 2 days ago (2 children)

They do it themselves and already accuse everyone else of sharing fake stuff. Has the moral high ground really worked so far?

All I see is that lies and appeal to emotion is what has given them real power. So when it comes to ridiculing the trump administration, I say fuck it, the alternative hasn't worked so far. It's only gotten worse

[–] [email protected] 6 points 2 days ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (1 children)

It has nothing to do with morality. People largely distrust politicians and politics in general. "Never Trump" Republicans and middle-of-the-road Independents. People we actually do need to vote. They'll say "both sides are the same" when they're obviously not. When we prove them right by stooping to the extremists' level, they disengage, along with millions of other people. They won't trust us, and why should they?

[–] [email protected] 12 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (2 children)

And I ask again, has that call to voting and high-roading strategy worked so far? All I see is a fascist US that will now inevitably end in bloodshed. People already disengaged without the opposition "stooping down to extremist levels". I'd even argue that that sort of weak opposition is exactly why people disengaged in the first place

Not to mention, the US is beyond that stage now. Fascism has arrived there, and it has entrenched itself. It will not leave peacefully, just like it didn't historically. No matter what, it's time for new strategies

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 day ago* (last edited 10 hours ago)

Literally no one is saying to use the "high road", I'm saying that, as a strategy, using disinformation will not accomplish our goals. And that's not even taking into account the results. You think tricking people into following us based on doctored images will get loyal, dependable supporters??

Look, you have your opinion and I have mine. Plenty of progressive think tanks, organizations, podcasts, etc will do focus groups and surveys closer to the midterms elections. At which point we'll have a better understanding of voters and messaging... In the meantime, I can only speak for myself: I, personally am far less likely to support any candidate that uses disinformation and blatant lies. Am I alone? Maybe. But I'm willing to bet there's millions more that feel the same way...

[–] [email protected] -3 points 1 day ago (1 children)

We don't get to peek at an alternate universe in which non-MAGA decided to play dirty too.

For all you know, many people who voted against Trump would've stayed home if alternatives were just as dishonest.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 day ago (1 children)

We don't need to look at an alternate one to see that your way already hasn't worked

[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 day ago (1 children)

A fire not being resolved by throwing a bucket of water on it doesn't mean it's time to break out the gasoline.

"But your bucket of water didn't work!"

[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

I think we honestly have to step back and wonder how why so many people are emphatically obsessed with the lie and derailing discourse with it, rather than picking and choosing any of the actual, factual items of a similar nature that have actual evidence backing them up.

My guess is its a probing campaign trying to see if right wing troll farms can sow discord and muddy the discussions, or trying to pull pliable people into the misinformation/echochamber bubble.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 2 days ago

agreed. it's appropriate sometimes, especially when humor and mockery is being used to generate a sentiment/vibe. no one believes this meme image is meant to establish an orderly basis of factual reality based consensus about Trump. it's a joke.

besides, there is no amount of "high roading" with facts and logic that will reverse millions of hours of targeted brainwashing that caused a third of the population to vote against their own interests. we need to use multiple tactics, and appeals to humor/vibes/insults is one way we can make those backwards voters feel differently.

end of the day, subtle manipulation of images to create a vibe WORKS on people and shifts perceptions. the left should weaponize it to achieve goals, imo.

[–] [email protected] 17 points 2 days ago (1 children)

I am so far past the point of giving a fuck about arguments that end with "and the Republicans will say..."

[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 day ago (1 children)

I'm right there with you. I don't say these things in consideration of them, but as a calculated political strategy.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 1 day ago

I'm saying that even in what is intended to be a calculated political strategy, it amounts to jumping at shadows.

Republicans are not bound by truth or logic or even evidence in what they say.

Worry about how the people you are trying to reach will react to your statement rather than letting the Marjorie Taylor-Greenes of the world pre-censor you.

[–] [email protected] 10 points 1 day ago (2 children)

Why don't you just say yes, he shit his pants, and go on to something else?

I agree with you on general, but Trump literally just tried to use a doctored image to say that AG was in MS-13. This is the poetic justice.

[–] [email protected] 14 points 1 day ago

Because... it's not the truth? At least in regards to that edited image. Republicans may not care what's real, but I do. Yeah, Trump's a piece of shit. But the one thing he can never do is to turn me into one. Even if we disagree, please take care of your family, friends, and community.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 day ago (3 children)

"If Trumps doing it, then its okay!" is not the argument you seem to think it is.

[–] [email protected] -1 points 23 hours ago

Or it's to satirise it maybe? Who knows?

[–] [email protected] -1 points 1 day ago (1 children)

"When they go low, we go high" isn't the one you think either

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Why don't you tell the court where anyone said to go high.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Exactly. These replies are like "you can't tell people to not be effective and to stick only to the highest standards of courtesy and decorum!" Literally no one is saying that.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

Exactly.

Its just so fucking weird to make up instances and lie about things, when we have actual factual instances of it actually happening, that are well known and easily used instead.

Like. The only reason I can see being so die hard for the lie is if you are some right winger trying to poison discussion and discourse.

[–] [email protected] -2 points 1 day ago (1 children)

I'm not saying it's ok as a general principal, I'm saying it's ok to do it to Trump the day after he does it to someone else.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 day ago (1 children)

"I'm not saying its okay, I'm just saying if Trump is doing it, then its okay to do it!"

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (1 children)

I’m not saying its okay, I’m just saying if Trump is doing it, then its okay to do it to Trump!

[–] [email protected] 1 points 22 hours ago

"I'm not saying its okay, I'm just saying its okay if trumps doing it, with emphasis!"

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (1 children)

i agree, We dont relly need photoshops and lies, when theres plenty of truth out there thats humiliating enough as is.

but as you can see, theres a lot of people who don't give a shit about right, as long as they can dunk on the person they dont like. Same issue as those fake TPUSA tweets people were obsessed with making a few years ago. Does nothing but muddy waters and provide cover for right wing actions.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 23 hours ago

Mind you, it is pretty funny, especially when you think it probably really infuriates His Royal Stinkiness. I hope he sees it. He does think photoshops are real, after all.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago) (1 children)

if there's nothing to claim as evidence they will just invent something like they always do.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Agreed. They will lie and spread disinformation, so we should not. It's what separates us from them...

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 day ago

Fuck that. What separates me and them is humanity, not honesty. I'll lie until I'm blue in the face, and i still haven't sent people to fucking death camps.

[–] [email protected] -1 points 1 day ago

I disagree.

There's a difference between a meme and presenting a doctored image as legit

[–] [email protected] -4 points 2 days ago