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I think it's good that we have new people coming in who question and challenge our collective political opinions. It's good to explain and defend concepts because it really does aid in understanding. Plus, we don't want to become an echo chamber.
Tbh I see it kind of opposite. When people come in with uninformed bad arguments we've heard 1000 times before, it doesn't cause me to reevaluate anything, and it just makes me want to unite more with other Hexbears in dunking on them. When there's fewer of those types, it's easier to have meaningful discussions and disagreement, without having to worry about giving libs ammo. We haven't had any struggle sessions and I've seen a lot less debate between Hexbears since it started. But I also don't think that's a bad thing, we could stand to do a little less infighting.
You might be right and I might come to agree with you in time. For now though, I think it's okay.
See, this is exactly the kind of behavior I'm talking about!
And almost immediately, I have a perfect demonstration of how useless libs are at debate.
If one day I ever feel the urge to actually debate someone on the internet, I will log off forever and live the life of a hermit in the woods.
I don't think articulating why libs are wrong counts as debate. a debate requires 2 sides.
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My thing is that I basically use Hexbear as a news aggregator, I don't really find much value in re-articulating my views, other than as a writing exercise, it's mostly a compulsive habit at this point. So I can take or leave federation, it doesn't really change that much, other than I won't lurk as much and will post more, which might not be a good thing.
writing practice is valuable :) semper
Posting more is definitely a good thing
Yeah. Honestly I'm not even having fun tearing in to them because it's just the same tired bullshit. Some dork was just yelling Tianemen square Uighurs DAE famine and it's like Is this shit the best you've got? They don't know anything, they don't know they don't know anything. It's not even a fight. They don't have any thoughts or ideas, all they do is parrot propaganda they're too incurious to question.
But did you consider... there are good one billionaires and that EVs were popularized by their cults of personality? How many millions have you personally put into a privatized charity that routes back into your own pocket?
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I agree, I feel like listening to what the liberals and fascists have to say is pretty important too to see both sides since the truth is always in the middle
Gotta give that emoji a work out occasionally too.
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The truth is between liberalism and fascism. And by "the truth" I mean a grenade. Gotta make sure both are in the blast radius.
i'll say it this is only true when you're not as based and theorised as da Empire State Building and can imagine libs and people who think they're not a lib but totally are know any worthwhile political theory