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[โ€“] [email protected] 7 points 6 hours ago (1 children)

I read Silence, I liked it, it was interesting. I came away wondering about self-sacrifice. Martyrdom is a constant theme (they're dealing with pretty intense suppression of Japanese Christianity in the 1600s), it's something we see people go through and Roderigues own thoughts evolve on.

It's never easy when your fate is held in someone elses hands but I do wonder if it's easier to die for your beliefs or to live for them.

spoiler, actual spoilers lolRodrigues has to commit apostaty by stepping on an image of Christ. The meaning in the act is drained as much as possible by the Japanese magistrate, they reassure everyone that stepping on the fumie is just a formality and they will not and can not stop them from believing regardless - later we find out apostate Japanese are tortured until Roderigues regents. But the act on stepping on the image of Christ is so tied up in Roderigues world view that he still imbues it with intense symbolic meaning. He is told this will be the most painful act of love he will commit in his life, and it probably is.

He came to Japan with Garrp, another priest, who also can't bring himself to commit apostasy and swims out to the ocean trying to save some tortured Christians before drowning. He was willing to die for his beliefs. But the torture didn't stop, it only did with Roderigues who was willing to live for them. Years later he still provides absolution (the catholic penitence right) to a recurring character, and in real life the church survived and there are still Christians practicing openly in Japan today.

It made me think if there's some critical moment in my life, some disaster, there are things I'd be willing to die for. But choosing self sacrifice and having to live with it, for years and decades, that might be harder.

[โ€“] [email protected] 5 points 4 hours ago (1 children)

I think I saw a clip of that scene on youtube.

[โ€“] [email protected] 5 points 4 hours ago* (last edited 4 hours ago)

They made it into a movie? I'm kinda surprised tbh

Oh weird, they made the Jesus voice over more resigned and accepting. When I read the book I imagined him more desperate to convince, and also miraculous - the bronze tablet actually moving. Interesting choice