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He got me to read the Manifesto and would have hours' long debates with our social-democratic roommate and now this. It's really shaking me up a bit.

He is on the whole defeatist 'nothing will fundamentally shake the imperial machine so might as well pick the wardog with better domestic policies' tip. I want to get through to him but I am getting stuck.

For example:

i also refuse to not vote my conscience but i figured this time its not like doing this abstract process to pick if id prefer -100 points vs -200 points is gonna matter that much if i genuinely believe itll even be slightly better under kamala i might as well

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[–] [email protected] 11 points 1 day ago (3 children)

im beginning to think there's something sinister in the concept of practicality

[–] [email protected] 1 points 17 minutes ago* (last edited 10 minutes ago)

I don't think it's practicality itself, because practicality dictates, to summarize by a lot, communism. No, I think they're doing the same thing they do with "logic" and "reason": kill them, and taxidermy them into little rhetorical totems they can wave around to give their mad pronunciations the illusion of weight. How many times have we all seen fascists say some ridiculous, out of pocket psychosexual shit and then just say the words Logic and Reason to try and justify it? Now Practicality has joined the pantheon of flayed concepts, not the real practicality of rational empathy and cooperation but the nihilistic, insectoid zero-sum Practicality™️ of genocide.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 day ago (1 children)

pragmatism for sure has a strong association with fascism.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 day ago (1 children)
[–] [email protected] 3 points 23 hours ago

We must do what is practical, what is "practical" happens to be compromising with Nazis, that type of logic etc...