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When I decided to host the mega again a bit ago, I had no idea what to make it about (of course). So it fell between two topics: a post on the importance of sleep, or a post on just how much I love Fire Emblem: The Sacred Echoes. Well, I felt like the importance of sleep was well-known, and could always wait for the next time I host a mega. I wanted to make sure I hit the Sacred Echoes iron while it's hot, because I've almost finished my play through at this point, and it might genuinely be one of the best games I have ever played.

Sacred Echoes feels so polished, considering it's a fan-made romhack of Sacred Stones, with the goal of bringing the 3DS game, Shadows of Valentia (SoV), to the GBA. Everything about the game aesthetically is very well-done, from the portraits, to the battle sprites, and literally anything else that could be thought of about a game. This includes new character writing, which helps the game in areas where Shadows of Valentia was a little, well, off. That's what I want to go over first, and although I've made a post before, I had only played a little bit of the game. Being at the end, I've noticed more things, and grown to appreciate this game even more than I already did.

Let's start off with the relevant (and interesting) bits: Sacred Echoes actually does a really good job at representing a variety of backgrounds, while also being diverse in a way that doesn't feel like it's simply to have a token character. This game doesn't suffer from the cracker curse, for example. Although most of the characters are white, there is more than one person of color (congratulations) . In terms of LGBTQ+ representation, it's even better. There are many gay/lesbian characters, whose sexuality actually plays a role in the plot and how they interact with others. There's also an aroace character, Lukas, who goes through a whole arc of self-discovery in his support conversations (support Python). It's good stuff, and not things I would normally expect from a Fire Emblem game. I hesitate to bring up the (possibly) only trans character in the game, Jesse. HOLD ON, NO HESITATION AT ALL! I just decided to do more research, and I wasn't just projecting. He is 100% trans, and it's in supports, and it's relevant to his plot and backstory, so it's just like the rest of them, thank goodness, I was worried he was a token. So yeah, support Clive and Jesse. Good stuff, and good luck getting to the end of the game so they can actually meet, one fights for Alm and the other for Celica...

This is Jesse

Here's some dialogue between Clive and Jesse, in the context of a will:

Clive: Only the following will be yours - your mother's wardrobe, her jewelry box, and all corresponding contents.

Jesse: Urgh. Even from halfway in the grave he's trying to tell me what to wear. So yeah, he's still the same tyrant he always was. Hasn't changed a bit.

In terms of character background, it's more diverse than one would think, and it addresses the issue of feudal class. Not all of the characters are nobles, and one of the main characters is a commoner from a random village. The plot regularly deals with the fact that nobles and commoners do not get along. However, it does not try to redeem most nobles. If they aren't proving themselves with their actions, they're probably shitty. Even if they are supposedly "one of the good ones", there's usually some underlying prejudice that comes out when you might not expect it. I love it so much, and I am extremely impressed that the plot doesn't try to redeem nobility as a whole, but rather allows the noble characters within the cast to have character development that feels less like justification and more like re-education.

Pictured is the class traitor Lukas absolutely destroying Fernand

For other details about the story, I'll link my original post. I don't want to drag this on too long, and I mention most of the improvements there. It also includes where to find the patch for the game, and how to play the game for yourself. If you enjoy SRPGs, or are new to the genre, I recommend this game. It has an easy mode for the newbies, and hard mode for those of us who hate ourselves (/s), and a normal mode for everything in-between niko-happy

The Echoes cast is amazing, and I love how they interact with each other and the world. Each character stands out, and they feel unique in their relationships with the other characters. Even characters that suffer in SoV, like Faye and the Masked Knight (has a name but it's spoilers), benefit from the Sacred Echoes writing, making them actually enjoyable characters. The villains of the game are also great. I don't want to go too deep, because I don't want to spoil too much, but they aren't just pure evil, and for that I applaud the SoV writers. Berkut is probably the highlight of the game, being the heir to the throne of the empire. I am once again asking you to play the game, because IT IS SO GREAT, and I would not have expected these good of villains to pair with Alm and Celica, as well as their armies.

Pictured is the Masked Knight being a gay little guy. The other guy (Saber) is threatening his life...

Everything about the game design is also amazing. It's GBA Fire Emblem, so the animations are peak and the pixel art is stellar. The maps are improved from the original SoV maps, and they are definetly much better, and much less repetitive. Classes in the game are fun in how they work, each character being able to promote 2-3 times. Mages also work really uniquely and well in this game, with spells costing HP to cast. They learn spells as they level up, rather than by purchasing tomes, which makes for (in my opinion), better gameplay. Sacred Echoes also adds the GBA weapon and magic triangles!

All in all, Sacred Echoes is a great game, and even if you never ending up playing it, you now know of its existence. It stands out as a great romhack, as well as a great Fire Emblem game, AND it has the gay. Can it really get better than that?

If you want my original (and more in-depth) analysis, check out my original post. It's mostly about what Sacred Echoes improves upon the original Shadows of Valentia.

Hope you enjoyed my little nerd-out session, and have a good week everyone! niko-dance

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[–] [email protected] 19 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago) (9 children)

This is gonna sound very trite to anyone over 30, but from my first grey hair over a year ago, I now have several, enough to be visible in my bangs.

yes-honey-left

My current plan is to do nothing about it. Idk if there's a better one. I do feel like I'm slightly too young for this, in an "I'll be ready for greys in my 40s not now" way, but evidently that's not the case shrug-outta-hecks

[–] [email protected] 10 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

meemaw

I've found a couple and I'm just chalking it up to chronic stress at this point, I'm not that old yet

My mom went grey pretty young though scared

At least they're more receptive to dye vivian-shrug

[–] [email protected] 8 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

Greys can start in your teens, some.of us are just built different yea

I have hair that falls just below my butt at this point and is extremely thick. Dying this is not gonna be super reasonable vivian-shrug

[–] [email protected] 7 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

Jelly of that

Little streaks of grey can be really charming imho though

I have really wirey thin hair texture that never wants to cooperate with me and I get the intrusive thought to just shave it all sometimes and go for the Harkonen lady look or become a wig person

[–] [email protected] 7 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

Little streaks of grey can be really charming

disgost I find it hard to disagree...........

[–] [email protected] 6 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

blob-no-thoughts I didn't mean that as a backhanded compliment, I really think it can be charming sry

[–] [email protected] 6 points 2 weeks ago

No I do too, just internalising the thought is all, lol

[–] [email protected] 10 points 2 weeks ago (2 children)

Greys can start in your teens.

[–] [email protected] 9 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

there was a kid in my secondary school with a grey streak at like age 14, it was really odd to see

[–] [email protected] 9 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago)

It's not uncommon but the stigma is real. It can be genetics or stress or a load of other factors.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

I got further than that at least...

[–] [email protected] 10 points 2 weeks ago (2 children)

greys in your 20s is common..

[–] [email protected] 8 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)
[–] [email protected] 7 points 2 weeks ago (2 children)

I had some when I was 18 and they were probably stress related, who knows. I don't really care about them and I dye my hair because I don't like my natural colour though if I went fully grey or white I would keep it. Or if I had a big patch I'd dye around that because I think that looks nice.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago) (1 children)

that sounds very cool tbh I am getting ideas

[–] [email protected] 6 points 2 weeks ago

Yeah I have seen people dye the grey or white in like a big patch or side of hair. It can look awesome, I don't have that much but if I did I would start rocking that lol

[–] [email protected] 4 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

Me, stress related bocchi-cry

Also dying your hair is rad I enjoy it.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

It could be genetics too, depends.

I enjoy dying my hair too as it's fun and I like having it black instead of blonde. lea-finger-guns

[–] [email protected] 5 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago) (1 children)
[–] [email protected] 4 points 2 weeks ago
[–] [email protected] 5 points 2 weeks ago

mine started then

[–] [email protected] 9 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)
[–] [email protected] 8 points 2 weeks ago

The hair on my head is still its natural color, but lately I’ve noticed some of my nose hairs are white stress

[–] [email protected] 7 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

I have a bunch of gray hairs growing smack dab in the middle of my head, I don't usually part my hair from the middle, but it looks kinda cool tbh. emilie-smug

[–] [email protected] 5 points 1 week ago (1 children)

My first was when I was 24, I think, and I have a half a dozen more or so now. It was a bigger deal to my mom and everyone else, they didn't bother me. For my mom, I'm her oldest so this was like an external reminder of her own age. My siblings wanted to tease me about it - but I had no emotional content towards it at all, no sadness or anger, no joy, just "huh"

I was pressured way more about dying them after transitioning lol

[–] [email protected] 5 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Pressured to dye your grays? Unpleasant. Now I don't think I'll ever do anything about them...

[–] [email protected] 4 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

That's my plan for a lot of things, works out okay usually.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 2 weeks ago

My rationale for this is, I can't dye it and pulling em out seems dumb. I am just gonna roll with it.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 week ago (1 children)

eh i started greying at 16, it's not so bad!

frankly i've always liked the "shot through with silver" look, i think it's interesting

[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 week ago (1 children)
[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 week ago (1 children)

lmao you are already much cooler, you just need to let yourself believe it stalin-heart

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 week ago
[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 week ago (1 children)

I started getting grey hairs at 14. I actually like the way they look

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 week ago (1 children)

waow-based

Thanks for talking about this, I feel at least a bit better about the greys with everything you (and others) have said in here.