this post was submitted on 01 Aug 2024
125 points (98.4% liked)

news

23537 readers
481 users here now

Welcome to c/news! Please read the Hexbear Code of Conduct and remember... we're all comrades here.

Rules:

-- PLEASE KEEP POST TITLES INFORMATIVE --

-- Overly editorialized titles, particularly if they link to opinion pieces, may get your post removed. --

-- All posts must include a link to their source. Screenshots are fine IF you include the link in the post body. --

-- If you are citing a twitter post as news please include not just the twitter.com in your links but also nitter.net (or another Nitter instance). There is also a Firefox extension that can redirect Twitter links to a Nitter instance: https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/addon/libredirect/ or archive them as you would any other reactionary source using e.g. https://archive.today . Twitter screenshots still need to be sourced or they will be removed --

-- Mass tagging comm moderators across multiple posts like a broken markov chain bot will result in a comm ban--

-- Repeated consecutive posting of reactionary sources, fake news, misleading / outdated news, false alarms over ghoul deaths, and/or shitposts will result in a comm ban.--

-- Neglecting to use content warnings or NSFW when dealing with disturbing content will be removed until in compliance. Users who are consecutively reported due to failing to use content warnings or NSFW tags when commenting on or posting disturbing content will result in the user being banned. --

-- Using April 1st as an excuse to post fake headlines, like the resurrection of Kissinger while he is still fortunately dead, will result in the poster being thrown in the gamer gulag and be sentenced to play and beat trashy mobile games like 'Raid: Shadow Legends' in order to be rehabilitated back into general society. --

founded 4 years ago
MODERATORS
you are viewing a single comment's thread
view the rest of the comments
[–] [email protected] 43 points 3 months ago (2 children)

he admitted to being on his phone? manslaughter aside, he needs to be in prison because he's too stupid to be allowed back in society.

[–] [email protected] 20 points 3 months ago (6 children)

We really need to develop a coherent set of positions on criminal justice at some point. It's an enormous, everyday issue, and there's this constant ping ponging between "we need to abolish prisons now" and "obviously this serious crime deserves prison time at minimum."

It's of course not always the same people making the two comments, but as a group, leftists are all over the map.

[–] [email protected] 20 points 3 months ago (1 children)

Prison is for executives. Reeducation is for people.

[–] [email protected] 9 points 3 months ago (1 children)

The issues with re-education are:

  1. If you're keeping someone in custody during it, it's prison, even if it's a nice prison.
  2. If you aren't keeping them in custody, and they don't show up, how do you get them to?
  3. Ordinary people commit heinous crimes, too, see this article.
[–] [email protected] 5 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago)

There's plenty of little social and bureaucratic annoyances that can be levied on someone until they show up. Don't go to re-education? You're not allowed to buy liquor till you do, or you're suspended from hookup apps, or your money's no good at festivals and sports events. Non-carceral, non-fine penalties that are still enough of a social annoyance to be worth biting the bullet and taking care of.

[–] [email protected] 14 points 3 months ago

The correct response to this incident is executing Elon musk

[–] [email protected] 13 points 3 months ago

It is hard to thread the needle between recognizing "retributive justice" is generally just morally wrong and the idea that systemically you probably need some sort of negative consequences available to help shape societal behaviors

[–] [email protected] 9 points 3 months ago

Here’s my position

  • Using “self driving cars” = prison
  • texting while driving = prison
  • intoxicated while driving = prison
  • buying trucks and SUVs without the need = prison
[–] [email protected] 3 points 3 months ago (2 children)

very-smart You think prison is bad but you want to see drinking and driving punished? Interesting.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 3 months ago (1 children)

Prison abolition isn't "prison is bad," it's "prison should be abolished." Even in the most generous reading, it's "prison should be used as an absolute last resort," which means wildly different things to different people.

All I'm saying is we should develop a coherent position on such a common issue.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 3 months ago

In the same way that it will take time to advance society to a moneyless classless one, I can imagine that full prison abolition would take societal structures to be developed before it is fully realized.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 3 months ago

Needs to be the ancap-good smiley for this one

[–] [email protected] 5 points 3 months ago (3 children)

Throw his family in there too for making this piece of shit

[–] [email protected] 30 points 3 months ago (1 children)
[–] [email protected] 6 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago)

You know that propaganda about the dprk? it's not true but it should be

[–] [email protected] 22 points 3 months ago (1 children)

Also, we need baby prisons while we're at it. Fuck it, goin' full-carceral.

[–] [email protected] 11 points 3 months ago (1 children)

you know what libs think the criminal justice system in the DRPK is like? yeah we're gonna make that look like some weak shit. im gonna imprison your unborn great-grandchildren mfer just you wait

[–] [email protected] 6 points 3 months ago

Cum jail for cum

[–] [email protected] 14 points 3 months ago (1 children)

The driver is 56yo so his parents are likely already dead unless you mean someone else lol.

[–] [email protected] 10 points 3 months ago

I would not just assume someone most likely in their 70s is dead. It's not extraordinarily unlikely but it's certainly not a given