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Joe Biden reportedly more open to calls for him to step aside as candidate
(www.theguardian.com)
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I think that would be too far left and you'd lose centrist votes
Vote blue no matter who? Or was that phrase just a cudgle against progressives?
You do realize there's more to the electorate than just dedicated Dem voters, right?
Just because we'll be telling people to "vote Blue no matter who" doesn't mean they'll necessarily do it.
You mean the "unions are communist propaganda but I like to call myself independent" crowd?
In part. There are even more bizarre types. I know strong union supporters who vote Republican, but have positive opinions on Bernie. I know liberal voters who voted Trump in 2016 to 'shake things up' (I am not very close with them, for obvious reasons). Many people in this country do not have a coherent ideology they vote by, and are swayed by many small factors.
It's a lot harder to shame centrists into doing the right thing.
Progressives have to stomach what they know is best for the country, even though they don't think it's good enough.
Centrists by definition aren't committed to what's best for the country.
I hate these filthy Neutrals, Kif. With enemies you know where they stand but with Neutrals, who knows? It sickens me!
When you say what’s best for the country, what do you mean exactly?
Not fascism.
And by centrists supporting fascism…elaborate please. What do Centrists support that you think are Fascist tenets?
You can want a very Progressive candidate and acknowledge that you need to win the middle of the electorate in first past the post voting systems at the same time
As always...
Possibly, but would those centrists flee to Trump? He's already got the racist vote.
Bingo. AOC is a no-go for way too many.
A charismatic younger candidate pushing progressive policy improves voter turnout, otherwise what did the Dems learn from Obama's first election despite not being a big national name before running?
Nothing. But a good portion of the electorate did get to learn about the power of marketing and the difference between liberalism and socialism
Maybe among MAGA supporters who were going to vote for Trump regardless of who gets nominated.