I can't believe I'm doing this unironically, but your argument is mainly just an ad hominem. You're not arguing against what is being said, but who is saying it.

YES OF COURSE HES RED AND ON FIRE AND HAS A POINTY TAIL WE HAVE TO MOVE PAST THE BANALITY OF EVIL

I relate to that too, I think. Both in that people fixate on the one red guy instead of the whole hell-thing (yeah Trump bad, can we talk about the global billionaire pedophile ring seemingly running modern society?) and people going all in on the aesthetics being the issue like with the satanic panic of yesteryear. I don't know if that's what you mean, but I do at least feel apprehensive when people overly focus on either one individual or the occult aspect of this kind of stuff.
On the other hand I don't think it should be discounted either. They discuss killing children in those files. That is occult shit. It's necessary to talk about how said global pedophile ring is seemingly obsessed with weird shit like that. It's an aspect of some larger monster or something. I don't know, the whole thing feels eldritch, impossible to properly talk about or analyse.

Or I don't know if it's necessary or impossible, but I feel a need that we acknowledge that on top of them being capitalist fascist sexual freaks, they're also being occult weirdos about it and that's a bit spooky or icky or something.

my bad

Thank you, it's okay. I'm prickly at the moment as well, and I'm sorry about that.

That's not how Occam's razor works. I'm not asking you to get into a back and forth about his state of being. I was asking you why you considered it so "out there" to be having a discussion on if he might be alive, considering all the stuff we do know about the day he "killed himself" and the general consensus that whatever happened, it wasn't suicide.

As to your edit I haven't mentioned proof as far as I can see?
You're being too vague for me with regards to the "baking". I've only seen people post/discuss extended correspondence or singular correspondence in the case of Norman Finkelstein.
I'm the only one who has done any "baking" that approaches what I think you're talking about, by sharing an article of Bjorn Lomborg denying further relations to Epstein. Considering who Lomborg is connected to, his material interestes and the general pattern of academics of his type and class meeting up with Epstein "just one time" for "a simple dinner" due to his "philantropic work" I felt like it was a pretty rational thing to find suspicious and worth of sharing.

I don't really know why the aesthetics hit like they do. I think it might be something about how direct it is? Or maybe obvious is a better word. It's as if every rich person is Richard III or Iago and we're the audience to whom they're looking out, explaining how evil they are.

I think the best way I can describe it is like this:

Imagine you find out Hell and Satan is real. Not only is it real, but it is exactly like it's drawn in shitty newspaper comics. Satan is a red guy with horns and a tail with an arrow bit. Hell is a gate and flames.
Not only that, but you get the distinct feeling that Satan picked this look because of the comics. Or maybe the comics were influenced by him to look like him? Or maybe they just hit the nail on the head when they guessed what the whole thing looked like? You oscillate between all the answers and, as you do so, you find out that this whole "The devil is actually real and he's actually a red guy who lives surrounded by flames" thing is something people just know about and are cool about. Nobody gives a shit! And if you start talking about it people will look at you as if you're crazy for saying "but he is a red guy! There's actual pictures of him and interviews with him where he talks about being a red guy! There's a wikipedia article dedicated to how red he is!" and people will say "yeah, you know, that's the bible for you. Eternal damnation and so on. Who really knows how much of that stuff is real though?" or they'll say "What you really believe he's a red guy?" even though there's pictures and everything!

And you're just stood there with the knowledge and the knowledge that everyone else also has the knowledge and half the people act like it's nothing and the other half act like you're crazy for believing the knowledge.

If it was just a smoke-filled room then it would feel different. It's the whole Aleister Crowley vibe to it. AND it also gets to me whenever some other shit happens, is THAT part of this billionaire theatre kid larp too? The owl of minerva or whatever people talk about with washington DC or Denver Airport or 9/11 air traffic control having a guy named Crowley working on the day. It's all just a larp and it's all just aesthetics, but how much of this world is just run for some fucking dorky ass theatre kids doing a fucked up larp?

Every time the west does anything, liberals will scream "this will make it so we can't critique China if they ever hypothetically do what we are actually doing right now, which is the only reason why it's bad we are doing it!" and then get mad when you call them racist. They might link you to a 7-year old debunked paper whose only source is the Xinjiang files.

Good pranks are something everyone involved can laugh about. The time-travel prank for example

I remember some comrade about 1.5 years ago shared a bunch of resources on Beria being trashed as part of Kruschevs anti-stalinism. Sadly I didn't bookmark anything :(

I'll see if I bookmarked it when I get home, but I doubt it.

Edit: yeah no. It wasn't the pictures in this thread. It was taken while the body was being transported into a car, outside. The image was from some distance away.

This combined with the poster - who I assume is also Robert - who shared images of Epstein right after he died, claiming it was a different guy... 🤢 Dude is still out there

I thought the whole point of brisket was it was a cheap cut of meat, so you did all that stuff to it to give it some zest

You know who isn't in the files? Dick Cheney. He just did what he did for the love of the game

It's not even "refusing to advance an agenda" because Epstein was just inviting Elon over for an obvious orgy. It's just failing a vibe check. It's like being invited up for coffee and going "Caffeine AT THIS HOUR? No thanks, I like to maintain a healthy circadian rythm." Just the biggest condescending doofus energy.