Not even CNN is talking about it, lol, Ukraine has lost the liberals.
i torture myself on an oldschool liberal message board and they are very much still in the tank for Ukraine. They aren't really operating in any sort of realm we can consider reality anymore though. They use numbers more than double what even the US says for casualties, for example. I don't think they even know this has happened.
If Ukraine loses and is forced to offer serious concessions to Russia (unlike the deal they already had and NATO prevented), the well armed extremists in Ukraine will go crazy. And they will probably be by far the most powerful faction. We could see terrorist attacks all over Europe from them.
Wait, but what if one of them rallies people by saying how their leadership betrayed them and it was because of the influence of powerful Jews? 
hopefully somebody with the means is smart enough to whack that guy
Hopefully Russia actually enforces "de-Nazification". At the very least by whacking any Nazi gaining power.
But that's probably wishful thinking.
idk. Supposedly Putin et al did crack down on openly Nazi gangs in Russia, but I have no idea if they applied the same verve to fascist russian nationalists.
we will, they'll need Strategy of Tension ops to bring restive labor to heel and these guys will be ripe for the job
This is exactly what the US wants though. As Europe becomes more destabilized and uninhabitable, more and more people (especially skilled workers and highly educated professionals) will be looking for a way out.
Some will probably go to places like China, but the vast majority of them will end up in the US as cheap labor with H-1B visas, competing and dragging down domestic wages. Literally cheap labor from Europe.
The irony is that this was exactly what the EU did to the post-Soviet states in the 1990s. A lot of brain drain from post-Soviet Russia and Europe practically received a whole bunch of cheap skilled workers taught by a very high quality Soviet education system. This is shock therapy in action.
This is what Western imperialism has been doing to the Global South over the past century, with economic migrants moving to Western countries.
Only this time it is happening to the Europeans themselves.
i really wonder, though, how much of the ultra-nationalist turbo nazis are once again fertilizing the fields of Ukraine as their heros in the SS Galacian division did so long ago. What happens in obviously failed wars like this? Do the ideological troops go in to hiding so they can do terrorism later, or do they all fight to the last and end up dead?
I suspect the smarter ones are already on their way to Canada
Mushrooms returning to the fetid pile of shit from which they bloomed.
So I can drop the Ukrainian flag from my display name now?
Anyone with it still in their display name is probably pretty committed. It'll probably stick around until the war is actually over, and a little past that.
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I'm sure it'll be a comment section full of "nuance" and "civility", and complete understanding of this "complicated" decision. 
Guy looks like a fucking Sopranos character lmfao
Seems fitting considering they're essentially running the biggest criminal organization in the world.
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