Banned? DM Wmill to appeal.
No anti-nautilism posts. See: Eco-fascism Primer
Vaush posts go in the_dunk_tank
Dunk posts in general go in the_dunk_tank, not here
Don't post low-hanging fruit here after it gets removed from the_dunk_tank
It's basically the new /r/GenZedong.
They should've done this way before this became a problem.
I'd like Nakoichi's thoughts on this as well.
in leftist spaces its best to assume anyone posting materials about illegal shit that the atf would send you to prison for is an actual fed
Precisely.
"Heheheh would be a terrible shame if these instructions on how to make an IED got spread around", Mixter Performative Radical said, and then proceed to never make an IED
People who want leftists to commit violence never do it themselves.
Curious.
Geez, it's almost as if revolution has phases or something!
Not just that, you have to wait for a revolutionary situation.
And it's not just the revolution that has phases; the movement has phases and, while there's lots of anger at the current state of things, we lack cohesion and organization.
Don't get me wrong: Americans are angry at, well, everything about this country but relying on how "people feel" is kinda idealistic; not materialistic.
You want to go more in-depth?
The recent RevLeft New Years ep had a segment about how revolution requires revolutionary conditions, you can't just convince a lot of people to do a revolution and then will it to happen on the lathe. Until the material conditions reach a point to actually allow a revolution you can only organize and prepare for the revolutionary moment, so that when it comes you can actually use that moment to do something.
The BLM uprisings were a potential revolutionary moment, but there wasn't an underlying organizational structure to actually do anything about it. Without cohesion, eventually the masses tucker themselves out, get it out of their system, and everything returns to normal.
eventually the masses tucker themselves out, get it out of their system, and everything returns to normal.
This is why the cia throws immense amounts of money at features of their reactionary revolutions intended to drag them out for as long as possible.
Free food, free drink, stage, music, shows, etc etc. Everything to keep people in the revolutionary moment for as long as possible.
Maidan is a very strong example of this. Massive amounts of money spent on things that were really just about making it "fun" to get the average people to stick around as long as possible and not lose the energy while the vanguard groups went about their plans.
Eh, maybe some other time.
I've thought about this for a while, but from what I've read, simply hopping onto the "revolution" or uprising phase doesn't work; you have to do movement-building first and then you can think about revolution.
Also, you have to build dual power which is a bit different than just movement-building but that's a whole 'nother can of worms to deal with.
Movements can take decades, maybe even a century or two, with many zigs and zags; I think that's the more depressing aspect of it, depending on one's point of view.
Then again, I view the movements and socialism/communism in epochs which means that we have to be thinking long-term... which makes the short-term thinking of these people that try to push people into committing violent acts (because they're too chicken-shit to do so) all the more tragic.
Oh, so basically how I already felt.
Actually doing a thing is hard.
Talking about doing a thing is comparatively much easier.
Fethishizing violence is the easiest way to identify a childish leftist
Yeah, it's not a fucking video game
this is just petty drama baiting by posting this into as many comms as possible
AHAHAHAHAHAHA
Zero serious discussion -> nihilism sets in
did genzedong actually say anything to get quarantined or was that another disinformation strike?
deprogram is pretty much identical memes but sides neutral/against assad putin & maduro
did genzedong actually say anything to get quarantined or was that another disinformation strike?
Being openly pro Russia when the SMO started. The reason given was a vague reference to "disinformation".
Nope, it was "misinformation" when the SMO started. There was a lot of Z-posting stuff (that in retrospect was a bit over the top) and a lot of sources shared that directly contradicted the Western view of the SMO.
Nobody else wanted to stray outside the libertarian-esque muh tax dollars argument, but they still got all affronted at ANSWER coalition type antiwar ppl in washington using the same anemic criticism. Same shit Zizek did during Iraq like "hey cmon i'm as left as a guy can be but are you really stanning saddam hussein lol??" totally unaware of the actual arguments until years later, when they will still be smug.
Whatever, not like it matters. Ukraine won the mind war. Solidnet stood with the working class of Ukraine against the little green men who snuck into Donbas. Everyone made their difference.
Nah in retrospect it was exactly correct and the hedging both siders have been completely discredited
Deprogram is like if you mixed genzedong with 196, inserting a lot more radlib and literal children
The users there seem very young and internet naive, like they are blown away by common leftist facts and have a hard time parsing cynicism and sarcasm, often misinterpreting meaning. Contrast that with the old Chapo or TrueAnon subreddits where there’s a bunch of heterodox weirdos with tons of esoteric knowledge and references, and lots of humor/sarcasm and world weariness, it’s night and day
It was and it wasn't, afaik.
GenZedong was too blatant and shitposty with its content and was quarantined for being too toxic.
Or that's what I was told anyway. They also kept brigading others too.
But yes, I wouldn't be surprised if it was a disinfo strike on top of other factors, which I'm not entirely unsympathetic to.
"Brigading" is a nonsense concept. These aren't private communities. Coming to the community and engaging with the content isn't an invasion. That's just using the website 🙄
Are trolls just using the website? Kerryposters? Is that Israeli app that directs users to dogpile pro-Palestine social media comments OK?
Brigading should mean more than organic users posting a link in a friendlier space and saying "hey check this shit out." But I wouldn't say it's a useless concept altogether.
[speaking from within your walls] If the impression reddit follows an actual system with moderating communists makes you feel like Tankie Bunker subs are safer, I won't disturb that.
Being blatant in your communism is good. Genzedong was better than any subreddit that exists on Reddit today
GenZedong was cool, although very shitposty. The subs that replaced GenZedong (Dongistan and such) were terrible though, allowing actual fascists to vibe in there just because they happened to support Russia at the start of the Ukraine-Russia conflict.
i can understand removals of actionable threats, but bans are a bit much. removals are more for safety than anything
We should host c/thedeprogram for all the people that want to post how to make bombs, guns and drugs.
crime is cool
The mod there is in the official Deprogram Patreon trying to police it without actual mod powers. Harassing people for literal jokes. They have always been a little unhinged.