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the original meme was about communist banter being unhinged and socially unacceptable.

I think it resonates with us because it's relatable, we've all been the person holding their tongue at a family gathering. I also think it resonates as a reaction to the lopsided "colonizer deaths are a tragedy while colonized deaths are a footnote" tone-policing in western media (see Israel discourse). Also, a politics of violent revolution makes flippant humor inevitable, back in '73 people were joking about "spain's first astronaut" https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Luis_Carrero_Blanco

It's an inside joke. I'd never say it in public. That would make me look ridiculous.

edit: i have all the [he/him]s on the website telling me that this is actually a very funny joke. i still don't like it or get it, but i've had my fill of arguing with y'all so thanks for the info. i can see why nobody calls this one out. it kinda fucking sucks. i'll just go ahead and block people who post this type of joke and go on my merry way.

another poSSter down UNLIMTED GENOCIDE AGAINST THE LEMMY DOT FIRST WORLD GLORY to the joint dictatorship of the posters of oppressed instances!!

This is a good point. Like most boomers, my socdem Dad used to browse Hexbear as part of his morning routine. Unfortunately he came upon a post using the offending phrase and now just posts 'so much for the tolerant left' under any article about Joe Biden on the Washington Post's website. Y'all need to reflect on this. If not for the sake of this website, but for the democrats reelection chances in 2024

edit: i have all the [he/him]s on the website telling me that this is actually a very funny joke. i still don't like it or get it, but i've had my fill of arguing with y'all so thanks for the info. i can see why nobody calls this one out. it kinda fucking sucks. i'll just go ahead and block people who post this type of joke and go on my merry way.

Asks a bunch of questions about a joke in askchapo

Gets mad at the people who respond

Adds an extremely mad edit

Includes a sideswipe at "he/hims" for some reason

Folks this person is clearly an expert in alienating rhetoric, so we might want to listen up as regards

yes

EDIT: Another session struggled, unlimited reeducation on the imperial core

"From the River to the Sea, Palestine will be free" and "Free Palestine" are being called genocidal statements. There's no point moderating our speech against the global north. As long as the global north maintains a stranglehold on global media and culture, anything we say that is adverse to their interests will be called genocidal.

"The First World" (or Global North, etc.) isn't an ethnicity, race, or any group of people. And it should be destroyed. This doesn't mean kill everyone in the first world anymore that "Death to America" means kill everyone in America. It's also not a joke; it's a meme phrase but the sentiment is genuine

Just he/hims saying it? Thats definitely not true.

I do agree that unlimited genocide stuff is baby edgelord stuff and isnt rooted in any marxist thought. I dont take it seriously though and i generally assume the people who are saying it seriously are the whitest people on the planet or theyre from like iraq where youre like "well yeah"

Seems fine

I think the odds of someone misinterpreting and actually committing genocide are pretty low.

another kkkracker down, i guess

Oh are we doing that lame-ass dork thing where we take an obvious joke, pretend it's not an obvious joke and then get mad at imaginary people who supposedly allegedly say it seriously

Cool what a productive conversation based on good faith dailogue

Not crazy about it but the global north has been doing genocide on the global south for five centuries. It’s not a meme. It’s reality.

does "unlimited genocide on the global north" or other variations really sound like something you should say?

It's pretty much a site-culture thing. No one actually wants to commit genocide on anyone. Honestly it sounds like you're doing some bad faith concern trolling here, so you do you fam...

i have all the [he/him]s on the website telling me that this is actually a very funny joke.

Uh... there are other pronouns saying that. Are you trying to pull an AOC here? LOLOLOLOLOLOL

i have all the [he/him]s on the website telling me that this is actually a very funny joke... i'll just go ahead and block people who post this type of joke and go on my merry way.

wokescold on settleroid violence 😔

ACAB includes the tone police

it doesn't make us many friends, but it is funny. "kill whitey" works too.

Chiming in as others have said, it's not serious at all. Reference to a leftist meme someone made that gets spread around a lot.

the original "thank you for not saying unlimited genocide on the first world at my parents house I know that took restraint" image is really fucking funny imo. It's a great comic/meme/joke. it's been referenced repeatedly until the joke isn't a joke anymore and it's not that funny anymore, but that happens to everything so it's not a big deal imo. using the word genocide in that context is kind of surprising and excessive which is what makes the comic funny. but it has maybe became an unpleasant phrase that people use way too much. dunno how important anything said in hexbear really is tho lol

because it's funny. associated with memes about JDPON and general posting in Maoist standard English

It's obviously not a good thing to say; it's the leftist version of fascists joking about helicopter rides or the day of the rope. Any normal person who hears it will write you off instantly. Genocide should be a red line for any leftist. "Oh it's a joke" -- not to people who don't have your specific vintage of internet brain poisoning. "I'm not saying it to normal people" -- you're posting it on a public forum.

This should be an easy one, but we're often contrarian to the point where we can't self-crit.

Don't be daft. Nobody actually wants unlimited genocide on the global north. We just enjoy saying unlimited genocide on the global north. In fact, it's very fun to say and you should try saying unlimited genocide on the global north more. Although if someone did truly want unlimited genocide on the global north they would probably get banned swiftly by our lovely mods who also enjoy saying unlimited genocide on the global north.

Mr. Evrart's helping me find my unlimited genocide on the global north...

On the scale of to , where does and fall?

I'm not shit posting on here to win hearts and minds. In the USian public, the reaction I get to telling people I'm a Marxist-Leninist is the same as I'd get shouting "anotha kkkracka down unlimited genocide on the first world"

I say these things to piss off right wingers, not because they are something i should say. The end goal of my politics are to subject them to the same constant headaches they subject me to

Genocide jokes.

Throwing Nazis in the pit jokes.

Genocide is of an ethnicity/nation/racial group of people's, and it's not okay to hurt people for the who they are or where they were born. Now people's choices that they make in sound mind is something that can be judged, harshly if their choice is to do something particularly heinous. For example, Nazis choose to hurt people because of traits that they cannot change; whereas the Nazi can change his ideals and choose to not hurt people. Therefore, throwing Nazis in the pit as they say you're the real Nazi is funny af.

It doesn't sound like something I should say, and I don't say it in public, but I have to admit I feel warm inside hearing another person say it ...it's more a emotivistic thing with a social, Wittgensteinian element: we say stuff we think others want to hear, and the harder we say stuff they wanna hear, the better we will have said it

It's like not when I say "fuck Nazis" I am literally commanding my audience to go forth and fornicate with fascists

I, John Brown, am now quite certain that the crimes of this guilty land will never be purged away, but with blood.