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[–] 224 points 1 month ago (9 children)

All of them being opened by a single money grubbing company, which has enshitified them to an accounting degree has not helped

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  • [–] 49 points 1 month ago (6 children)

    accounting

    squints eyes not sure if typo or not

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    [–] 127 points 1 month ago (8 children)

    Are they? All my friends in their 30s have more than one app. Or had it, when they were single.

    What has really been dying for quite some time is "third spaces". That's what we need to get back really, beyond dating. Just plain socializing and enjoying togetherness.

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    [–] 101 points 1 month ago (1 child)

    "Monopoly fucks up the entire market, news at 11."

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    [–] 68 points 1 month ago (2 children)

    it’s not because there isn’t a desperate need. it’s that they are predatory and make a hard thing fucking impossible, and have a vested interest in making it impossible and charging for the solution, but not a good enough solution to invalidate needing to keep using it.

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    [–] 63 points 1 month ago (35 children)

    It's fascinating how different women's experiences with these stupid things are than men's...

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  • [–] 24 points 1 month ago (32 children)

    How so?

    I'm a man who originally met women on these apps, but after a certain point everybody seemed to be a bot and the app seemed to be completely gamified, even when I used paid apps. Other people might have different experiences.

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  • [–] 86 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (28 children)

    From what I understand, women are deluged with mobs of low-effort fuck boys and men are mostly ignored, which creates a feedback loop where men swipe on anything just for the hope of a match, which only makes things worse.

    It's really fascinating from a systems perspective. But it used to be better before enshittification, in my limited experience. The reality is that quickly finding a new partner you are ideally matched with is the very last thing these companies want you to do.

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  • [–] 39 points 1 month ago* (6 children)

    One of my friends, who is a woman, once showed me her dating app to show me why she found it so exhausting. I tell you, I'm ashamed of my fellow males. She got so many cheap messages from horny guys, to the point where she found the app useless.

    For me, last time I used a dating app, I found it very hard to strike up a meaningful conversation with my matches. It was like I had to carry the whole conversation and they took forever to respond. So in that retrospect, it might be why some guys don't put in much effort when contacting women. But most of the massages my friend showed me, where absolutely just mouth breathing horny guys.

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  • [–] 50 points 1 month ago* (3 children)

    My last runthrough with the apps, I'd carefully read everyone's profile and craft an interesting introductory message. It took quite a bit of time and was rarely rewarded with a reply, much less a conversation, much less a first date. My messages got shorter and shorter until eventually I was just mass swiping. And, just as far as a use of time goes, if all that matters is a woman likes your profile, it's more efficient to roboswipe and filter the women who match back.

    Also, the emotional toll of serially declaring "I like you" and asking "do you like me?" only to be greeted by rejection after rejection is pretty devastating.

    Anyway, very happy with my current girlfriend whom I randomly ran into at a store while looking for an accordion.

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  • [–] 18 points 1 month ago*

    Well duh, they earn money when you use their app. And you stop using the app if it does what it's supposed to. Finding the love of your life is the worst possible thing to happen for the company since they lose you as a customer

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    [–] 54 points 1 month ago (4 children)

    Yesterday, I matched with 12 men. Only two messaged me.

    Lmao she should have tried running an account for an average looking man

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  • [–] 53 points 1 month ago (2 children)

    Maybe if they weren't all about making money off loneliness they might be doing a bit better.

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  • [–] 51 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (21 children)

    Everything I've watched or read online seems to indicate that dating apps suck for an overwhelming majority of people so good riddance?

    What I can't figure out is what comes next. Singles events (at a bar for ex)? Meet up type events where your doing something with other single people? Friends try to set you up with someone?

    I've been married for 10 plus years so I have no skin in the game but it's an interesting topic to me.

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  • [–] 22 points 1 month ago (3 children)

    I've been married for a long time too and we met on the greatest dating website of all time: Craigslist Personals.

    You entered your gender, age, a written segment, and an optional photo. No algorithm, no matching. Everything written was searchable and published via RSS. All communication went through email. No app, no subscription, and the only ads were sex workers.

    In the context of this article, it forced the user to engage by reading people's blurbs instead of just swiping for brain chemicals like Candy Crush. You felt like you were talking the other humans and the website was just where you went to meet them.

    If such a site were recreated today, users would want to run the RSS feed through a slop rejection filter.

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    [–] 41 points 1 month ago (1 child)

    Dating apps never really served their purpose. They killed themselves.

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    [–] 36 points 1 month ago (11 children)

    Glad I finally am in a position where I'm not on the apps (knock on wood, etc). I was getting dates but I could always tell it was in spite of their best efforts.

    And even the person I'm with now, I feel like the app algorithm thought we'd be like an 80%. On paper it doesn't seem like it'd be a long term fit- i have a cat, she has a dog. I like a lot of metal, she likes jam bands. Lot of room for the algorithm to predict we'd have a few dates and then it wouldn't work out.

    And as someone else said, most of them are owned by Match group. Even the myths of capitalism require competition for products to be good. Match should be broken up.

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    [–] 33 points 1 month ago

    HOW is this Possible? All dating Apps do is make it IMPOSSIBLE to Find a Real Person! How is that NOT a Winning Strategy in the "Find a Real Person" Industry?

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  • [–] 32 points 1 month ago (5 children)

    I used dating apps on and off for the best part of 10 years when I was single I never got a single meaningful match. They simply do not work.

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  • [–] 31 points 1 month ago (2 children)

    The point of the app isn't to get you dates, it's to get you to use the app so they can sell your data.

    If you get into a relationship and delete the app, they've lost a customer.

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  • [–] 12 points 1 month ago

    The system only works with competition, but as we stopped enforcing anti trust and anti competitive laws in any meaningful way, the same company owns most of the sites, and is in a shittrust with the rest to all maximize revenue instead of competing.

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    [–] 28 points 1 month ago

    It's so uncommon to see good news these days.

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  • [–] 28 points 1 month ago (4 children)

    I’ve paid for a few to see if it helps - It does and I feel like it was worth it up until 2 years ago when they changed how matching works. But you know what doesn’t work, people telling the truth on their profile. So great, I had better matches or in my case on bumble, better choice for matches based on who liked me. But damn if Jeni from the town next door loved “hiking” when really she just loved watching tv and one day wanted to “be more active”. She also told me she wanted to move to Spain one day… guess who also wanted to move to Europe ( Spain, wherever) - me! But I got the job and she’s pulling the “well not yet!!!” and in the end just wanted to visit and knew I have money to do this. P.s. I live in Spain now.

    Each profile is a crafted (and truth bending) aspect of your life for others to review and I hate how it doesn’t capture the truth of who you really are in person. I went in being honest and found women who liked the same, but yet they were never really who they were on the app. I found my best matches when I wasn’t truthful or bent the truth a tad but yet I never stayed together long.

    Best girlfriend so far, met her organically on the beach because my dog went over to say hi by licking her face. She’s a bit over the top, has tattoos everywhere including a funny phrase on her ass, but she’s the most compatible woman I’ve met so far.

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    [–] 24 points 1 month ago (6 children)

    They were a silly concept to begin with. If they worked well, they'd kill their own business model. To stay economically viable they therefore have to use all kinds of tricks and produce mixed-at-best results, and cognitive manipulation to keep their user base entertained. Glad to see them finally collapse

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  • I never really believed that montra of if they were successful they lose a customer. I met my wife on a dating site over 13 years ago and told everyone I knew about it and how good it was. Many of the people that I told tried the site. It's a great way to spread your business if anything then through natural word of.mouth you actually kinda weed out people who are looking for the wrong things. Unfortunately the one I used ok cupid was bought by the big conglomerate and they change it so it was just like all the others. The other place I see it working is if governments offered the service because they want people to be matched up. I get people might not trust the government to match them up but why would you trust a company to do it then.

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    [–] 24 points 1 month ago (18 children)

    I am currently developing one and what I can see is the following:

    • people get treated like cash cows. It is almost not possible to successfully date without spending money
    • people are burned out. The low quality swiping, matching, just to get ghosted, is hurting the motivation.
    • people have other problems nowadays. COVID reshaped us completely. We don’t want to spend 2h a day on a dating app. 2h a week max and then they want to continue in real life.

    Those are pain points introduced by big corpos (e.g. Match.com) and the fact, that they have launched their apps before COVID.

    I have addressed those pain points.

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    [–] 22 points 1 month ago

    Good riddance

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  • [–] 20 points 1 month ago (6 children)

    I met my wife on a dating app, but it was over 20 years ago now. I suspect that like everything they all have evolved to capture your eyeballs as much as possible. Back when I used them, they were about meeting people, they hadn’t yet gamified them with the swipes and so forth.

    So, not surprised, a little sad to hear it even, since I can’t imagine being a young person and trying to meet new people these days. Then again, as an aspiring Luddite these days, I hope people find a way to connect in real life.

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    [–] 18 points 1 month ago

    in essence its just to get men to keep swiping, and become the "product/data" to be sold. thats why its dying.

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  • [–] 17 points 1 month ago

    If they are dying, I'd say nothing of value is lost.

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  • [–] 16 points 1 month ago

    Hard to argue this isn't a good thing, given how they've driven young people apart on purpose for profit.

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    [–] 14 points 1 month ago (2 children)

    I'm blessed to have experienced pre-algorithm tinder back in the day.

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    [–] 13 points 1 month ago

    Good. Dating apps have never worked for me, and maybe this is because I'm demisexual, but I'm just never able to feel a connection online and I end up swiping left on everyone, and I'm pan so that's a lot of people.

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