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[–] 125 points 2 days ago (7 children)

Are they? All my friends in their 30s have more than one app. Or had it, when they were single.

What has really been dying for quite some time is "third spaces". That's what we need to get back really, beyond dating. Just plain socializing and enjoying togetherness.

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  • [–] 11 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (4 children)

    The more people use them, the less they work. That's kind of the whole model right?

    They are inherently all flawed because they keep you away from the single only reliable way to date: growing your social circle.

    Even if you match someone, that's a single date where you may or may not continue to see each other. Whereas if you spend all that time and effort hanging out with your friends, getting to know people that are in your and their orbits, you are growing your social circle exponentially and exposing yourself to far more dating opportunities while looking like you're not even trying. And even if it doesn't work, you are still making being single more fun for yourself by having a rich social life.

    Just spend that time reconnecting with old friends, hanging out with people from work or joining some club or class. That's how to be successful dating. Specifically by not "dating". To me dating is something that just happens naturally, you don't need to go looking for it. Just be ready when the opportunity arises. Learn to spot them. Its a social skill like any.

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  • [–] 1 point 16 hours ago (3 children)

    But isnt that dangerous in that there are peoole who dont want to date but rather they simply want to make friends and spend time with friends but if you reveal your romantic relationship feelings for these people thatll potentially ruin that platonic relationship you two have?

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  • [–] 2 points 14 hours ago (2 children)

    Yep, so you don't do that. I've never seen anyone confess their feelings and not get met with rejection. What can you expect if you put someone on the spot?

    Flirting is about ambiguity and plausible deniability, because you are giving yourself and them ways out of the situation if the vibes don't match.

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  • [–] 1 point 8 hours ago* (1 child)

    But the problem with flirting is that you may be dealing with a complete idiot like me who cannot read signals and youll end ip leaving that oerson in the dark forever aboitbwhat you really feel, or you may send signals to anither party who doesnt want to spoin your friendship, and thirdly it can lead to people eventually shutting down away from all forms of reltionships bith platonic and romantic.

    Like you can look up the dozens of stories of where a person , Person A was flirting with another person , Person B, and Person B was completely obliviois to what the hell Person A was doing.

    One of my favorite stories was one where a lady would ALWAYS invite the same guy to her college dorm room so they could 'study' together. After few months of 'studying' tigether (he would always focus solely on studying when she was typically thinking about ither things... ) she said 'Lets play a game' . Basically the 'game' was that they both take off ALL ctheir clothes as fast as possiblr and hide under her blanket. They played this game for months and months ...and.... he still didnt pick up on the hint. It wasnt until long after they were both married and divorced to other people that she finally revealed to him what she felt about him. He said he felt the same way about her but he didnt have the coirage to say anything to her. See? Now they both lost out on a relstionship that may not have ended in divorce as their previous relationships had.... all because they both didnt have the courage to say anything to each other. And knowing myself? I would also be unable to pick up on a signal like this.

    TTheres also a second problem with flirting is that men tend to be so lack of social and ohysical intimacy thst they see ALL positivity and vulnerability shown to them as flirting when in truth the person who is being kind and touchy towarrds them simoly wants to be a kind and huggy friend. ANd there is nothing wrong with being a kind and huggy friend. Humans NEED vulnerability . Humans NEED physical intimacy to relieve our touch starvations. Ive read like a dozen stories of both men and women, but mostly women, who have stopped showing their male friends physical intimacy and vulnerableness or who have stopped naking male friends completely because the males interpret it as flirting . And Im a male and I can agree that if someone showed me ANY kindness I would interpret it as flirting too.

    And thirdly , people who have repeatedly misinterpreted kindness , physical intimacy and vulnerability as flirting also have a third problem where eventually they just start ignoring ALL signals because theyre so scared to misinterpret anything. People like this can become so lonely that its like theyre living in solitary confinement

    In my opinion sending mixed signals is toxic and should be done away with forever

    If yoy feel some type of way about a person ? You must tell them directly or NEVER give them any mixed signalsat all. And if you do tell them you you must do it with full with confidence BUT you have to have two parts to your plan before you tell them: First part of the plan is that you have to have an 'escape plan' to cut your relationship with that person or their associates if you feel thst your romantic feelings for this person will interfere with you platonic relationship with them or their associates , second aprt of the plan is ofcourse to tell them and be confident with wjo you are and with accepting rejection. Ive come to realization that mixed signals is a way of a person telling 'HELL NO' because if you arent confident enough in yourself to admit that you want to date me or you want to accept my request to date you?.... Why would I want to date you? A person who is confused about their love for me is confised about who they are as a person. That relationship also goes the other way . End of story. I was reading that article from 'No Nonsense Sel-Defence' and thy came to this conclusion... and theyre right!

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  • [–] 1 point 4 hours ago* (last edited 4 hours ago)

    Why would you want to be in a relationship with someone who you can't understand signals from? It shows your communication isn't on the same level yet.

    Real confidence is not overthinking things. Paying attention is a social skill like any other. I think learning it is the best relationship skill you can give yourself.

    You can't love someone off the bat, it's something that builds. It's normal to not be sure at first.

    Dating and love is ambiguous and complex.

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