You're right! Poverty caused by capitalism is orders of magnitude worse! Gini coefficient is a much better way to measure poverty.

No, the Gini coefficient is not a good measure of poverty. It is a statistical tool that measures income or wealth inequality—how evenly or unevenly resources are spread across an entire population—rather than tracking who falls below a specific minimum standard of living.

21,020 people died from malnutrition in the US in 2022 as a primary cause of death. 20,552 of those were from the "not enough to eat" kind of malnutrition, 468 were from the "not enough nutrition" kind.

i am talking about starvation, not malnutrition that's combined with other illnesses that result in death. those are two different things. starvation is a direct death due to caloric insufficiency, where you will see emaciated bodies with bloated stomachs. now, is there starvation in america?:

Pure, unadulterated starvation (absolute lack of available calories) is exceedingly rare as a direct cause of death in the United States. Instead, public health data tracks broader categories like malnutrition. According to Centers for Disease Control and Prevention (CDC) data analyzed across recent decades, tens of thousands of deaths annually (approaching or exceeding 20,000 per year) list malnutrition as a contributing or primary factor, heavily concentrated among the elderly, individuals with severe dementia, or those facing severe underlying chronic illnesses. Meanwhile, millions of Americans face Feeding America defined food insecurity (lacking consistent access to adequate food), though this rarely translates to absolute caloric starvation. [1, 2, 3, 4, 5]

death by starvation is NOT the same as death by malnutrition from groups with other underlying illnesses like severe dementia or the extremely elderly.

You want to define those failures?

in communism:

Scholars estimate that tens of millions of people died from man-made and politically induced starvation under 20th-century communist regimes. The vast majority of these starvation deaths occurred in China and the Soviet Union due to radical agricultural collectivization, forced grain requisitions, and failed economic social engineering projects. [1, 2]

Major Famines and Death Tolls

• The Great Chinese Famine (1959–1961): Part of Mao Zedong’s Great Leap Forward, this disaster caused an estimated 15 to 55 million deaths, making it the largest famine in human history. [1, 2, 3, 4]
• The Holodomor in Ukraine (1932–1933): Joseph Stalin's forced collectivization and confiscation of food supplies in Soviet Ukraine resulted in approximately 3.5 to 5 million deaths. [1, 2]
• Soviet Famine of 1932–1933 (Overall): Beyond Ukraine, severe collectivization policies and starvation across other parts of the Soviet Union—including Kazakhstan and the North Caucasus—led to an additional 5.7 to 8.7 million total deaths. [1, 2, 3, 4, 5]
• Other Regimes: Smaller-scale or localized famines and food deprivations occurred in North Korea, Cambodia, and Ethiopia under communist or Marxist-Leninist governance. [1, 2]

notice the difference; TENS OF MILLIONS dead by STARVATION vs ten of thousands due to malnutrition. do you honestly believe people are starving to death in america? have you seen an emaciated body with a bloated stomach in america? if so, please show me it.

instead of spreading propaganda of failed systems that have proven to result in mass famine how about suggesting ways to improve the systems we currently know to work best?

lol couldn't you say gangs are more of a hobby too and not just a business run for profit? they hang out with each other, tell jokes, have an entire community and culture, their own form of language etc.

i get that lemonade stands aren't really a for profit business because they're just activities their parents let their children do for money, but the point is if you get reductive enough anything you do for money you can label a capitalist enterprise.