kills 2 million civilians
"We tried to minimize civilian casualties" 
kills 2 million civilians
"We tried to minimize civilian casualties" 
McNamara literally set kill quotas so that progress toward "victory" was equated to mass slaughter of civilians and these dumbfuck fascists will still go "smh the gubmint didn't let us nuke the entire country".
They compare all wars to WW2 when it’s the exception not the rule because they don’t want to do the whole “transform society and economy to total war production, no more treats” thing ever the fuck again because the last time they did that the proles came to expect some kind of recompense
The flamethrowers came in and we burnt the hamlet. Burnt up everything. They had a lot of rice. We opened the bags, just throw it all over the street. Look for tunnels. Killing animals. Killing all the livestock. Guys would carry chemicals that they would put in the well. Poison the water so they couldn’t use it… They killed some more people here. Maybe 12 or 14 or more. Old people and little kids that wouldn’t leave. I guess their grandparents. People that were old in Vietnam couldn’t leave their village.
from https://www.currentaffairs.org/news/2018/07/what-we-did-in-vietnam
These guys are dime a dozen unfortunately. This is one of the two fascist responses to them losing a war. It can't be because they refuse to examine material conditions, it's always because they were either "Holding back too much" or sometimes claiming vague things about the enemy "Cheating" (like the Vietnamese building spike pits being a war crime, but agent orange on entire villages isn't)
Its funny if you think about it. America propaganda is how we were plucky little underdogs and now British lost the revolution because they didn't conform to new age of fighting and their arrogance was their undoing.
Meanwhile : "how could us, America, loose a war. We are so amazing great and powerful. Those other people are ignorant primitive slurs"
Don't forget Dolchstosslegende!
People actively sabotage war efforts from inside the US. We have too many internal enemies.
They say that like large sections of Vietnam weren't Catholics wanting to continue a dictatorship or weren't French/Japanese/American collaborators.
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Actually that is just where the Vietnamese liked to store their spikes. It’s really easy to avoid them if you are a local, but unfortunately the GIs did not visit the welcome center when they arrived.
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Yeah it's not like the current drunk of war didn't repeatedly say he was removing all constraints on the military so they could take Iran out nice and quick. How'd that go for them? They seem to only be able to kill civilians or diplomats meeting to discuss ceasefires.
Americans love the line "they're about to figure out why america doesn't thave healthcare". But then they just learn their military is equally as badly funded and operates, and the only one benefitting is military weapons producers.
I don't know that the US military is badly funded. Then and cops seem to be the ones who get all the money. It's just that that doesn't stop them from being incompetent and best and thirsty for civilian blood at most likely.
The military isn't badly funded, but no amount of funding in the world can make up for incompetent management, and, when your livelihood consists of telling your superiors exactly what they want to hear or you are demoted/fired, then there is no incentive to ever tell management about bad things, so it appears that incompetent managers have everything going well for them, when in fact, it is just that they are not actually reporting issues because their subordinates know better than to report issues to them, and everything slowly but surely grinds on until you actually have to produce a product (in this case, win a war), and suddenly wtf we can't actually win this war?
Shit like this is exactly why the Red Army had officer purges prior to WWII, because even though it may have cost them some level of expertise at the start of WWII, it wasn't reporting problems that got you in trouble with the Kremlin, it was when your subordinates had to go around to report issues to the Kremlin.
Loses a boxing match
“Oh yeah? Well I just fantasized about winning this one by bringing my AK-47 to the ring!”
These are Asmongold fans, those takes are one of his major talking points he's been throwing up over the last couple weeks
(cw: SA, SV, atrocities)
There's a documentary from 1972 called Winter Soldier, where veterans of the US invasion of Vietnam testified to their war crimes. Here are a few excerpts of the transcript: http://links.org.au/node/3343
Consider the following recollection of Vietnam-style “counter-insurgency” warfare, provided by Scott Camil, a former member of the 1st Marines:
Anybody that was dead was considered a VC. If you killed someone they said, "How do you know he's a VC?" and the general reply would be, "He's dead," and that was sufficient. When we went through the villages and searched people the women would have all their clothes taken off and the men would use their penises to probe them to make sure they didn't have anything hidden anywhere and this wasremoved but it was done as searching… The main thing was that if an operation was covered by the press there were certain things we weren't supposed to do, but if there was no press there, it was okay. I saw one case where a woman was shot by a sniper, one of our snipers. When we got up to her she was asking for water. And the Lt. said to kill her. So he ripped off her clothes, they stabbed her in both breasts, they spread-eagled her and shoved an E- tool up her vagina, an entrenching tool, and she was still asking for water. And then they took that out and they used a tree limb and then she was shot.
An ex-machine gunner with the 1st Air Cavalry detailed the routine violence that accompanied cargo runs on his CH-47 “Chinook” helicopter:
It was quite usual that there would be a sniper outside a village in the foliage, in the trees, and if we took fire from one sniper we'd return fire on that sniper and then continue to spray the entire village with machine gun fire and M-16 ammunition until we either ran out of ammunition or we had flown so far away from the village that we could no longer reach them with the weapons…The free fire zones were posted on the operation map in the operations tent and this gave us a policy to kill anything that moved within that area.
Sadistic games at the expense of civilians were used to spice up the day:
Rotor wash was also used to blow down the huts, literally blow down the villages….So we'd come in and flair on a ship and just blow away a person's house. Also, the Vietnamese, when they've harvested a crop of rice, put it out on these large pans to dry and that harvest is what is supposed to maintain them for that season— what they're supposed to live on. We'd come in to flair the ship, and let the rotor wash blow the rice, blow their entire supply of food for that harvest over a large area. And then laugh, as we'd watch them running around trying to pick up individual pieces of rice out of a rice paddy.
While it was unusual for hundreds to be gunned down in a single location (as occurred infamously at My Lai in April 1968), the Winter Soldier testimony confirms that it was nothing out of the ordinary for dozens or scores of civilians to be slaughtered in “search and destroy” missions:
We moved into a small hamlet, 19 women and children were rounded up as VCS— Viet Cong Suspects— and the lieutenant that rounded them up called the captain on the radio and he asked what should be done with them. The captain simply repeated the order that came down from the colonel that morning. The order that came down from the colonel that morning was to kill anything that moves, which you can take anyway you want to take it… I turned, and I looked in the area. I looked toward where the supposed VCS were, and two men were leading a young girl, approximately 19 years old, very pretty, out of a hootch. She had no clothes on so I assumed she had beenremovedd, which was pretty SOP [Standard Operating Procedure], and she was thrown onto the pile of the 19 women and children, and five men, around the circle, opened up on full automatic with their M-16s. And that was the end of that.
This is to me, another case of 
We can't forget that projection is a coping mechanism. However, when we look at the way the West has waged war both in the past and today, despite there being ''rules of warfare'', it becomes clear that the ones holding back are the Global South. If we resist in any way, or if we're Russia defending ourselves, their media demonizes us and makes up atrocity propaganda, like with our Iranian family. It's a classic ''rules for thee but not for me''. So who's fighting with their hands tied now?
This is armchairing, perhaps, and that's fair if you understand it that way. I've just been thinking about this for a while and wanted to throw it out there.
So these are the kinds of discussions you could find if goblins had their own society
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"Most moral army" propaganda didn't begin with Israel
Tactically deploy agent orange exclusively on their home /j
/joke only because their children and the people who live in that home in the future don't deserve that.
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