Nobody is talking about it? They have been in the news...
It's insane.
If bodycams videos are not provided, the court should assume the worst possible scenario. Death penalty or life sentence. It would magically star appearing.
They should be considered as off duty unless their body-cam is on and recording.
If the "officer" doesn't have the camera on and recording, then they shouldn't have qualified immunity. Full stop.
They always had money for cameras. They were just given even more money under the pretense of spending it on cameras.
Even if they do get cameras, and the agents are required to wear them in the end, the recordings will just be deleted or never shared with the public. Assuming the cameras will be on at all.
"I invoke my right to not produce evidence against myself" - ice agents
Pretty sure that "right" doesn't exist in the US. You have a right not to testify against yourself, but you do not have a right to withold evidence of your crime.
Example. I have a right not to be compelled to say I was embezzling money from employee retirement accounts. I don't have a right to suppress emails and account statements that documented the embezzlement.
The ICE officer cannot be compelled to testify that he just murdered someone based solely on their race. He also cannot suppress body cam footage, doubly so since he does not own the footage, the state/his employer does.
The man murdered on July 13 was Joan Sebastian Guerrero.
Whats worse is they wouldn't even have funding right now if not for the fact that they used reconciliations to ammend the budget a few weeks ago. Every Single Republican has to go.
...to prison.
I know that this opinion is gonna get me down voted to oblivion, but I'm reminded of the scene in Black Hawk Down where the young trooper in the Hummvee yells "They're shootin' at us, Sir!" And then Tom Sizemore (may he rest in peace) yells back "Well shoot back!"
They were wearing cameras.
You can see them wearing cameras in the pictures. Don't let them lie to you.
Weren't the fascists wearing cameras though? They appear to be in the stills that I have seen.
Because the head of ICE isn't an attention whore. He's just trying to do it for the love of the game... Noem wanted the accolades for her evil.
THE POLICE PROBLEM
The police problem is that police are policed by the police. Cops are accountable only to other cops, which is no accountability at all.
99.9999% of police brutality, corruption, and misconduct is never investigated, never punished, never makes the news, so it's not on this page.
When cops are caught breaking the law, they're investigated by other cops. Details are kept quiet, the officers' names are withheld from public knowledge, and what info is eventually released is only what police choose to release — often nothing at all.
When police are fired — which is all too rare — they leave with 'law enforcement experience' and can easily find work in another police department nearby. It's called "Wandering Cops."
When police testify under oath, they lie so frequently that cops themselves have a joking term for it: "testilying." Yet it's almost unheard of for police to be punished or prosecuted for perjury.
Cops can and do get away with lawlessness, because cops protect other cops. If they don't, they aren't cops for long.
The legal doctrine of "qualified immunity" renders police officers invulnerable to lawsuits for almost anything they do. In practice, getting past 'qualified immunity' is so unlikely, it makes headlines when it happens.
All this is a path to a police state.
In a free society, police must always be under serious and skeptical public oversight, with non-cops and non-cronies in charge, issuing genuine punishment when warranted.
Police who break the law must be prosecuted like anyone else, promptly fired if guilty, and barred from ever working in law-enforcement again.
That's the solution.
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• r/ACAB
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INFO
• A demonstrator's guide to understanding riot munitions
• Cops aren't supposed to be smart
• Killings by law enforcement in Canada
• Killings by law enforcement in the United Kingdom
• Killings by law enforcement in the United States
• Know your rights: Filming the police
• Three words. 70 cases. The tragic history of 'I can’t breathe' (as of 2020)
• Police aren't primarily about helping you or solving crimes.
• Police lie under oath, a lot
• Police spin: An object lesson in Copspeak
• Police unions and arbitrators keep abusive cops on the street
• Shielded from Justice: Police Brutality and Accountability in the United States
• When the police knock on your door
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• NAACP
• National Police Accountability Project
• Vera: Ending Mass Incarceration