Some of the most insufferably chuddy gay men I have ever known basically decided to drop all pretenses of caring about the rest of the LGBTQIA+ community the moment gay marriage was legalized.

Does the experience not give you ANY sympathy for anyone who isn't a white, cis, able bodied, neurotypical man?

This goes all the way back to the early suffragette movement where voting rights were to be extended only to white middle/upper class women.

This is simply the core ideology of liberalism. Capitalism cannot function without social antagonism - someone has to be exploited. You literally cannot take that out of the equation. And if equality is extended to every social group, who else but one set of people are you going to blame the ills of society on?.

[Rosendall] said protesting police presence at Pride overlooks decades of work spent improving relations between the D.C. LGBTQ+ community and the police force; the department even has an LGBTQ+ liaison and is considered a model for inclusion.

the best part is the follow-up:

“There’s a risk of behaving in a totalitarian mindset,” he said.

freedom is when cops. totalitarianism is when no cops. It takes decades of work to reach a theoretical conclusion this profound

Yeeeeeah I don't know what had me throwed more, the Gen Xers who tapped out as soon as they got the right to marry and started pulling the ladders up behind them, or that wretched invertebrate simpering for swine about "oh wah we spent so much time 'improving relations'" when they should've been spending time leaving the swine in outlines. Just more evidence of settler-queers being the weakest link

[Rosendall] said protesting police presence at Pride overlooks decades of work spent improving relations between the D.C. LGBTQ+ community and the police force; the department even has an LGBTQ+ liaison and is considered a model for inclusion.

god go fuck yourself. if this is who I think it is, he stood between counterprotestors and literal neo-nazis celebrating at a bar - not with his own body, but by lining up other cops. even the fucking cops on the line had the decency to cry over what they were doing.

Uhh sweaty my ex boyfriend was abusive and yelled at me so I have trauma over hearing AMAB voices so speaking while trans in my presence is a misogynistic hate crime. No I'm not transphobic, why do you ask?

For real, it seems to be an awful idea to be anything less than perfectly polite as a trans woman. I do it sometimes by accident and sometimes deliberately... I haven't experienced anything bad relating to this on here yet, but generally people lose their shit at you so quickly and with such ease.

these "AFAB only" queer spaces are a nightmare for me as a masc-presenting trans woman. all semblance of allyship, even from other transpeople, goes straight out the window. i think the overall pervasiveness of transmisogyny in society makes it so that the TERFy "trans women are nasty men" narrative picks up traction even among other queer people.

This is probably a very specific form of discrimination but I've seen much more hatred towards pan people like myself from gay and lesbian people, even bi people, than from cishet people. That's probably because homophobes don't bother to learn what pansexuality is, but it's very upsetting to me to have seen fellow queer people throw me under the bus because they think I'm 'looking for attention" or whatever.

To me, being pansexual means I'm attracted to people regardless of their gender, and being bisexual means I'm attracted to all genders. It's a small difference to people who aren't bi or pan but to me it's very important. So seeing queer people say that I don't fit in with them just makes me feel awful.

And they're still trying to outlaw homosexuality today. They haven't stopped.

Middle class gay and lesbians got a moment of peace and turned their back on everyone else.

Crazy that they pulled that shit and then turn around and act like they should still have a place at our table; like nah, they decided to go play collaborationist with the State Department and now these cracker motherfuckers are slapping rainbows on bombs and Stars of David on Pride flags. There's no pride in it for me anymore; I'm ashamed these traitorous sellout motherfuckers are what the actual international community, no crackerverse sees Pride as.

Every time I see some settler-queer, Amerikan or Israeli, using the Pride flag as just another tool of gentrification, it makes the bile rise in my throat; leaves me in a state of "well fuck. No wonder they hate us, if our enemies present our standard to their enemies."

Ooh, picking that one up

Using broad statements like “white gay men are hindering our progress” is othering and alienating. I’d hope people would rightfully call that out if you wrote “black trans men are hindering our progress”.

False equivalence.

lmao i come in here and of course you're doing the stupidpol "but what if you replaced white with black" argument

As a white gay man I’ve been intimidated by police at my home and harassed and threatened for being gay as recently as a few months ago. I can’t be openly gay with my partner without fear of being killed.

No. You've be intimidated and harassed for being gay, being white or male has literally nothing to do with it.

When it comes to the patriarchal dominance over the lgbt community though, the being white and male part actually matters, because it's that group doing it. You're even doing it right now by getting upset that your dominance as a white male is being questioned. This is a supremacist reaction that should be looked at introspectively.

They aren't broad enough statements. It's white queers generally too. I am currently watching white queers in union leadership ignore all union bylaws and undermine democratic processes while making it a very unwelcoming environment for bipoc. Guess who they blame for lack of participation? I'll give you a hint... It's certainly not blame directed at themselves. And after the 3rd and 4th time it's brought up there is still no hope for change beyond booting people from their positions. We need better solidarity and better leadership in our organizations and it seems white queer folk are just as prone to repeating the routine racist mistakes that other whites make and are equally stubborn about self criticism. It really undermines our organizations when people refuse to read the room while making it about themselves. We all need an annual mandatory history lesson on how often white people fuck it up for everyone. That includes white queers.

White people aren't a minority.