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You aren’t going to keep Android open. Respond by shoring up Linux phones.
or making a cydia-style open source repository style app store that's accessible through custom firmware.
MAKE AN OPENSOURCE STORE THROUGH CUSTOM FIRMWARE DUHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH Example: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cydia
"In August 2009, Wired reported that Freeman claimed about 4 million, or 10 percent of the 40 million iPhone and iPod Touch owners to date, have installed Cydia.[17]"
Start working on a Cydia-like app for android or graphene. Look into the development of how to code an open source repository style app store that’s accessible through custom firmware. if one person can make one for the iphone via a custom firmware then, we can 100% do the same with android.
I genuinely appreciate the cause, but to sign this, I have to provide PII, agree to their terms of service and privacy policy, and get automatically opted-in to their mailing list that I'll have to unsubscribe from later.
So to petition against this shitty tech stuff, I have to go through this other shitty tech stuff. It sucks how normalized this all has become.
here it makes at least some sense to verify that each person voted once. the mail list stuff is of course to much and should be optional from the beginning.
The number of times that signing an online petition has prevented the plans of an evil corporation is exactly zero.
There are already some movements, like #Keep Android Open that ask to contact local regulators and law makers, this petition is useful to have a concrete number of people that agree and that can be used officially
I am not so sure. It creats activity, being passive is worse. We should encourage all type of protests, even petitions.
Fire also creates activity.
I’m highly active at a molecular level doesn’t mean I’m getting shit done 😊
at the molecular level at that.
Companies have reversed unpopular decisions in the past (just saw a thing about Facebook reversing some AI thing). So there may be some possible chance of them reversing this decision. I'm not hopeful but the cost is cheap, and it has a better chance of success than doing nothing
Hence the proliferation of spam… It cost nearly nothing to do and has a very limited chance of return… And yet my inbox has still got 10,000 messages in it which I do nothing about.
This feels like the last stop for this. I swear it got posted 3X a day to every other sub for weeks last year.
Am I ignoring the actual post and just looking at the logo because I own a 7 year old iPhone —also yes.
A 24hr waiting period to use a competitor's product has to be one of the most blatant anti-competitive behaviour in history.
If only the founding fathers had written the right to bear apps shall not be infringed in an amendment.
Oh well can't change the ancient text now, just have to be governed by it forever. 🤷 (It's a shame the ancient powder-wigged wizards that wrote the constitution weren't clairvoyant.)
That’s it gents! Wax up those mustaches, load the cannon with grape, storm the White House! We’ll give those bastards a day of reckoning that won’t soon be forgot.
Also kilts and face paint 🤣
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please just make an android alternative
I want a phone that isn't a closed ecosystem race to the bottom shit phone
The issue is the hardware, we already have software
All of the alternatives eventually run into the same "Will my banking app work on it?" problem. The absence of a healthy app economy is the one thing that can't be fixed by throwing software engineers at it, and it is what caused the death of Windows Phone.
Right. It wasn’t the zune guy, limited adoption, Microserfs killing the platform after 7 years or a general lack of interest, a climate of distrust after 10 years of garbage operating systems with new logos and the same Windows NT internals…
my banking app already doesn't work on my phone, because it doesn't like termux:x11 and an autoclicker i have installed for an idle game
God I fucking LOVED my windows phone. Nokia body, windows OS, and no one fucked with making viruses because eleventeen people bought one in total.
Lumias before Microsoft' acquisition were adorable phones.
🤣 Man… that phone from The Saint with the slide out full sized keyboard though. Peek Nokia.
They should work in a browser no?
Many banks require apps for 2FA. This varies greatly by country.
Not for things like check deposits, unfortunately
@PabloSexcrowbar @anon_8675309 When my bank _doesn't_ allow check deposits via website, I will switch banks. Ain't installing a stupid app for a _bank_ of all things, and why would I bank from a device that I could accidentally lose at the grocery store?
Rejoice. As an Android owner, you have options of And-nodroid 😉
i hope linux phones succeed
There are, but the market is rigged by monopolists. And things like banks increasingly require apps that won't even run on customer Android ROMs easily.
The regulators are needed here.
The problem with regulators is that they a) gladly suck corporate dicks, b) gladly opt-in for the same authoritarian methods of population control, and c) gladly ignore common sense altogether.
That is also because we let the companies get too big. We need to break them up. The market is completely dysfunctional. It is feudalism right now.
"a" has a name: regulatory capture.
Regulators have in the past fulfilled their role, they've just been hamstrung.
I'm pretty sure that custom roms will remove that 24hr wait period from their binaries. Android is still open source and removing a check isn't going to be very hard for them.
The tech ecosystem is as open as you can. Use linux. Use SearxNG. Use graphene or other custom roms. There's options out there, you just have to start adopting them instead of just complaining online about having no choice.
Not everybody has a choice. I'm currently on grapheneos, but it looks like I may be forced back to android due to national ID requirements.
AOSP is open source, android isn't
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Fuck you Pichai. They should be sued.
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