▲ 1136 ▼ Keep Android Open (Stop Google from limiting APK file usage) (c.org) submitted 2 months ago by Duckling5746@lemmy.today to c/selfhosted@lemmy.world 157 comments fedilink hide all child comments
[+] placebo@lemmy.zip 15 points 2 months ago (6 children) [deleted] permalink fedilink source hideshow 6 child comments replies: [–] Ooops@feddit.org 23 points 2 months ago (1 child) Petitions are useless Protests are useless Governments and corporations conspire to implement surveilance knowing what comes next <-- we are here Actual resistence permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] xSikes@feddit.online 1 point 2 months ago Well put permalink fedilink source parent [–] DandomRude@lemmy.world 16 points 2 months ago (2 children) That is simply wrong. Public pressure can certainly be effective. In any case, it's definitely better than doing nothing at all. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [+] placebo@lemmy.zip 9 points 2 months ago (1 child) [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] AmbitiousProcess@piefed.social 6 points 2 months ago The petition is only one part of the puzzle. Keep Android Open also says to contact your regulators and fill out Google's developer verification survey, both of which either directly affect Google by influencing internal processes, or put regulatory pressure on them to back off. The Change.org petition is moreso just a way to count overall total supporters, and add one more lever of pressure that can be leveled against them. (e.g. instead of "we've had a lot of people contact regulators" it's "218,000 people are actively taking the time to tell you they don't like this", can be cited by lawmakers, advocacy groups, etc) That said though, I do agree that a change.org petition on its own is... generally ineffective most of the time. permalink fedilink source parent [–] curbstickle@anarchist.nexus 6 points 2 months ago Eh, I wouldn't say useless. I'd say they only account for user sentiment at best. Which can have an impact, but I'd say incredibly unlikely that there will be an impact on this one. Not using android as much as possible will have a much higher impact though. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] Ooops@feddit.org 23 points 2 months ago (1 child) Petitions are useless Protests are useless Governments and corporations conspire to implement surveilance knowing what comes next <-- we are here Actual resistence permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] xSikes@feddit.online 1 point 2 months ago Well put permalink fedilink source parent
[–] DandomRude@lemmy.world 16 points 2 months ago (2 children) That is simply wrong. Public pressure can certainly be effective. In any case, it's definitely better than doing nothing at all. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [+] placebo@lemmy.zip 9 points 2 months ago (1 child) [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] AmbitiousProcess@piefed.social 6 points 2 months ago The petition is only one part of the puzzle. Keep Android Open also says to contact your regulators and fill out Google's developer verification survey, both of which either directly affect Google by influencing internal processes, or put regulatory pressure on them to back off. The Change.org petition is moreso just a way to count overall total supporters, and add one more lever of pressure that can be leveled against them. (e.g. instead of "we've had a lot of people contact regulators" it's "218,000 people are actively taking the time to tell you they don't like this", can be cited by lawmakers, advocacy groups, etc) That said though, I do agree that a change.org petition on its own is... generally ineffective most of the time. permalink fedilink source parent
[+] placebo@lemmy.zip 9 points 2 months ago (1 child) [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] AmbitiousProcess@piefed.social 6 points 2 months ago The petition is only one part of the puzzle. Keep Android Open also says to contact your regulators and fill out Google's developer verification survey, both of which either directly affect Google by influencing internal processes, or put regulatory pressure on them to back off. The Change.org petition is moreso just a way to count overall total supporters, and add one more lever of pressure that can be leveled against them. (e.g. instead of "we've had a lot of people contact regulators" it's "218,000 people are actively taking the time to tell you they don't like this", can be cited by lawmakers, advocacy groups, etc) That said though, I do agree that a change.org petition on its own is... generally ineffective most of the time. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] AmbitiousProcess@piefed.social 6 points 2 months ago The petition is only one part of the puzzle. Keep Android Open also says to contact your regulators and fill out Google's developer verification survey, both of which either directly affect Google by influencing internal processes, or put regulatory pressure on them to back off. The Change.org petition is moreso just a way to count overall total supporters, and add one more lever of pressure that can be leveled against them. (e.g. instead of "we've had a lot of people contact regulators" it's "218,000 people are actively taking the time to tell you they don't like this", can be cited by lawmakers, advocacy groups, etc) That said though, I do agree that a change.org petition on its own is... generally ineffective most of the time. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] curbstickle@anarchist.nexus 6 points 2 months ago Eh, I wouldn't say useless. I'd say they only account for user sentiment at best. Which can have an impact, but I'd say incredibly unlikely that there will be an impact on this one. Not using android as much as possible will have a much higher impact though. permalink fedilink source parent