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[-] placebo@lemmy.zip 15 points 23 hours ago
[-] Ooops@feddit.org 23 points 22 hours ago

Petitions are useless

Protests are useless

Governments and corporations conspire to implement surveilance knowing what comes next

<-- we are here

Actual resistence

[-] xSikes@feddit.online 1 points 21 hours ago
[-] DandomRude@lemmy.world 16 points 21 hours ago

That is simply wrong. Public pressure can certainly be effective. In any case, it's definitely better than doing nothing at all.

[-] placebo@lemmy.zip 9 points 21 hours ago

Public pressure can be effective, but this isn't public pressure. This is the "click a button if you agree" type of action. Online petitions are extremely ineffective unless they're part of a broader, stronger campaign. This petition isn't part of anything in particular.

From what I see, some student started it and there are no goals, and no planned actions. According to change.org, this petition mentioned in a medium.com blog and some tech website most of us have never heard of. That's not much.

It's just a place to vent your frustration.

it’s definitely better than doing nothing at all

It makes one feel better because it gives people a false sense of accomplishment.

Look, vote if you want, I just think this is off-topic and isn't directly relevant to self-hosting. Hence the comment.

[-] AmbitiousProcess@piefed.social 6 points 18 hours ago

The petition is only one part of the puzzle.

Keep Android Open also says to contact your regulators and fill out Google's developer verification survey, both of which either directly affect Google by influencing internal processes, or put regulatory pressure on them to back off.

The Change.org petition is moreso just a way to count overall total supporters, and add one more lever of pressure that can be leveled against them. (e.g. instead of "we've had a lot of people contact regulators" it's "218,000 people are actively taking the time to tell you they don't like this", can be cited by lawmakers, advocacy groups, etc)

That said though, I do agree that a change.org petition on its own is... generally ineffective most of the time.

[-] curbstickle@anarchist.nexus 5 points 23 hours ago

Eh, I wouldn't say useless.

I'd say they only account for user sentiment at best. Which can have an impact, but I'd say incredibly unlikely that there will be an impact on this one.

Not using android as much as possible will have a much higher impact though.

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