https://www.avma.org/sites/default/files/resources/dog_bite_risk_and_prevention_bgnd.pdf
"breed is a poor sole predictor of aggressiveness and pit bull-type dogs are not implicated in controlled studies"
Thought I escaped the pitbull/wasp hate hive mind. Funny how I interact with both pitbulls and wasps, yet I haven't been bothered by either.
Maybe it's a you problem.
Pitbulls are largely due to the owner, and the actual dog is 99% of the time totally fine.
Wasps can fuck the fucking fuck right the fuck off though.
To each their own. But I talk at the wasps around me and they are generally pretty cool.
I don't have conversations with them, I literally just expel words out my lower face hole at them in a generally positive tone.
And I know this is semantics, but ants and bees are important, and they evolved from wasps. Sorry if I'm coming across pugnacious, I just got a soft spot in my heart for arboreal guys (I.e. paper wasps).
An anecdote of one does not nullify scientific data.
Yeah n=1 times a few hundred is a statistical anomaly, but does not a p value of ≤.05 make.
Laughed because I have a Chihuahua pit mix. It's like mixing a dog with the fury of 1000 suns with a big head and roided body. But he's damn cute and fun.
Oh my, is this dog cute!
But the combination really sounds stressful
How did this even happen?
next stop: "your viceral and emotional hate for pitbulls parallels racism"
"are you saying black people are dogs!?!?"
fin
In an online context, it's almost impossible to have a real conversation about pitbulls. The people that don't like them are earnestly scared of them, for themselves, or for others. The people who love pitbulls love them like anyone else would their dogs. For the owners, they are part of the family.
For what it's worth, I thought the rhetoric was overblown until I adopted a pit bull myself. He's a great dog and I love him, but the power and aggression he displayed when he is trying to chase a critter is far above any breed I've owned. I don't know if it rises to the level of needing to be regulated, but if I were running a shelter, I would not adopt a pit bull to a first time dog owner.
Friend of mine had an adult American Stafford shire and a new red nose Pitbull puppy
Puppy wanted to play, Stafford tried to hide behind me.
Puppy started to bite him from behind to initiate play time, Stafford had enough and wanted to scare him away
Half my upper torso was inside Stafford's mouth.
He immediately recognised his mistake and I wasn't hurt in any way, but yeah, they do have quite some ability.
Still, both of them were one of the nicest dogs I've ever met.
They're really family dogs, but with that, they want to defend their family with all their might as well.
And being jealous over a human baby surely is a problem
Still, pretty much all dogs can hurt you and it's about their owners, who fuck up and those poor dogs need to take the shit for it, when their owner trained them wrong
I don’t know if it rises to the level of needing to be regulated
It does. That's the whole point. There's nothing emotional about this opinion. You don't have to be scared to think dogs that regularly kill people should be banned. It's common sense.
I thought the problem is that the amount of dog bites don’t go down when you ban breeds - it just changes to another?
All the studies I’ve seen suggest strong licensing over all dogs, regardless of breed, is the most effective at reducing dog bite injuries and fatalities
That said I’m not great at extrapolating data so if someone can point out anything I’ve missed in that, I’d greatly appreciate it.
This looks like just some data dump prepared by pit bull supporters to have easy link they can distract people with. Seriously, why would someone create a page with dog bite studies specifically?
But I looked at the very first article and....
"f you consider only the much smaller number of cases that resulted in very severe injuries or fatalities, pit bull-type dogs are more frequently identified."
Yeah, no shit. This entire website is trying to purposefully confuse "dog bites" incidents with dogs killing people and then claims "Look, Chow Chows also bite people. It's the same!". It's not. When people talk about banning dangerous breeds they mean breeds that cause severe injuries.
It also doesn’t take into account the size of the mouth either; a giraffe bite will hurt more than a mouse bite.
It stands to reason someone who gets a dog will love the dog, but if people simply stopped buying these breeds they would eventually go extinct an the world would be a safer place
Any terrier does that though. The thing is a jack Russell doing it is a joke that a suburban mom can yank to hell and back. A pitbull is 10x the weight and muscle mass of that tiny dog.
You can't control a pitbull once they are set off. I grew up with a pitbull and seeing it attack and a bunch of strong grown men unable to control it is scary as shit.
The last 3 times I heard of a baby or toddler being eaten by a dog, it was a husky, not a pitbull. But nobody ever talks shit about huskies.
Your three data points don’t nullify the larger pattern. Lots of dogs can be shitty. Pit-bulls are uniquely strong and aggressive though. And German Shepherds can be gnarly bastards too. They’ll all fine if their owners know what they’re dealing with and can physically restrain the dog, but that’s so often not the case and owners don’t realize how little control they actually have until their dog is already gnawing on a child’s leg.
I hate huskies. They are lovely to look at, but are neurotic assholes
All dogs are like that to some degree. It blows my mind how popular they are as pets. And before people call me dog hater, I do have a dog and I treat it well and love it, but I'll never get another one. They are quality of life decreasers.
That's not my experience with most dog. Most dogs I've interacted with have been lovely
I was a Grade A moron to ever question eating babies!
Y'all I'm not really plugged into pitbull discourse. So when I saw this meme, I thought it was making fun of the arguments in favour of humans eating meat.
upvoted because Rollo is there and I havent seen Rollo in like 4 years
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