Coincidentally, OOP just explained academic publishing to a T.

I think this is the story of humanity. It ain't getting better until we massacre the inhumanly rich, eat Thier families while the world watches, and force evil socialism on shared intellectual property

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That is how capitalism works.

The American Weather Service provided weather updates for free, but a company came along and just started copying what the weather service posted ... then sued the Weather Service for publicly posting the weather because the government is not allowed to provide a service for free that a company can charge for.

Insanity.

...Seriously?

This guy has no leg to stand on; that's the Mildly Infuriating part.

EDIT: Am I the only one on Lemmy who discounts the whole post the moment I see a blue checkmark?

Especially this one. It's so hypocritical it hurts.

Not to mention those same companies obsessed with AI are the ones who run the search engines. They made finding all those tutorials and other good resources harder. They ruin search results with ads and easily gamed algorithms that they stopped trying to improve. All that made people more willing to let the AI find the answer.

There is a license that says that all derivatives must also be open source.

But also AI companies don't care about the law, they stole all their data, engage in insider trading, circular trading, and generating all manner of illegal content, they don't give a fuck. And the US government isn't doing anything to hold them accountable, infact the president is getting in on it.

Welcome to the world of scientific publishing, long before AI. Except authors even have to pay for creating "content", and reviewers are expected to work for free. Yet article access is sold at astronomical prices.

Once you understand that AI is limited to the questioner's ability to properly elucidate what they need to know you'll have several more botched concrete stair resurfacings.

Thanks Gemini, you self-contradicting potato

I'm just waiting for some RTO'd workers to be told they're being mass laid off, and instead they just beat the manager to death. The irony of it only being possible because they were forced back into the office will be delicious.

20 years? More like somewhere between 30 to 40 if we count early WWW and the Gopher+Usenet that came before it. The GPL isn't quite that old, but the spirit behind it sure is. If we count early home-computer clubs back in the 70's (like the one that birthed the original Apple) or the ham-radio crowd that came before it, we can push into 50+ year territory, easy.

I hadn't considered AI being a paywall around the whole WWW but now that you mention it, it kind of looks that way. I've opined elsewhere that social media companies (e.g. Facebook) are building walled-gardens to keep eyeballs and attention-spans locked on their brand of reality. This would just be another avenue of attack in that strategy.

The library is still there. Admission is still free.

Only 20 years? My techguyforum screen name is damn near 30 years old at this point. (Don't go there. Site is ruined trash, now. ) I been giving info to help with shit since even before then. Internet has my fingerprints in it since the early 90's.

it’s called a walled garden for a reason.

Finally someone said it. I honestly was wondering why no one was complaining about this... I've worked on some open source myself, licensed it GPL, and never intended for it to be used as training data.

Doesn't the GPL cover shit like this? There should be mass lawsuits hitting any AI that used open source software and didn't just specifically use BSD projects or something.

If you train an LLM on GPL code, it should be illegal to sell that LLM and use it commercially without revealing ALL THE SOURCE you used and the source to regenerate that model.

They are also trying to take away these free resources by pushing laws to make ID identification mandatory to make money off of us.

And the people charging admission are also hemorrhaging money.

Weird fucking timeline.

The worst part (maybe the second worst after all the slop poisoning the internet nowadays) is the proof that copyright law is only for us poors.

I download a copyrighted work and get a strongly worded letter from my ISP, or worse. They download all the copyrighted works; scrape the data from them; and charge for the ability to use said data to make derivative, non-transformative slop; and get fabulously wealthy from it.

The same people who abuse community resources (bulldoze public green spaces, kill rivers, pollute oceans, despoil lands, toxify the air, extinct animals etc.), do the exact same to information and the sources of it. They take for themselves and give nothing back. They cannot coexist with community or communal anything (which is why they hate community and socialism). They cannot give and will compulsively take. Their lives are why greed is considered a sin, insatiable and cruel, and it was wise to believe so.

Never share anything of value with the world. Do not allow them to know value exists or they will come for it. Giving freely and openly has empowered those who advantage themselves, by stealing every idea that is shared. They are the enemy, they are the threat, their psychology is a hazard to the community.

Share only with your communities and close those communities to these thieves. The only solution to private power is community power. We need to build back our communities and abandon everything possible that they control.

Just further enshittification. Companies don’t make new things or new technologies anymore. They just find new ways to rent squat and extract fees. They’ve stolen everyone’s work, manufactured a way to give it to you first without you seeing the author’s material, and told everyone to use this method to access information so they can charge for it.

welcome to academic publishing, it has gone on for 50 years

Justice is not only about what is fair, but also about the fear people have of suffering consequences, aka: Pain. Being in jail is painful. It's a tiny room with no hygiene, cockroaches, the toilet is right there in the same room, isolation, unlikable neighbors, years or decades without Internet, a TV or PC...

The biggest lie the Jeffrey Epstein Class managed to pull off was to convince everyone that causing pain is an "absolute" wrong. It is not. Pain is what forces us to reflect and grow the fuck up to avoid committing the same mistakes. Those fuckers didn't have enough pain in their lives, because they lived it on Easy Mode. They were surrounded by yes-men and serfs constantly glazing them and laughing at their bad jokes. Now we are here.

We don't do shit to them because we are afraid of the pain the bodyguards, the cops or the law will lay upon us. But it should not be that way. They should be afraid of the people. Right now, they are laughing at us, doing heinous shit on purpose just to test our limit, and in the worst case scenario, normalize it. Young kids are already memeing Epstein, almost treating it like it's no big deal or just a joke, I seriously hope they don't carry that attitude forever, and realize that people like Epstein deserve to have their head opened to the truth as soon as you see them. Their bodyguards, I'd say are the worst people of all. The army, cops, bodyguards; they are people who openly and proudly decided to give their lives for a dude who rapes children and is not paying people what they're truly worth, a livable wage.

Nothing will get better until the rich fear for their lives.

Its not weird, but its wrong and should be illegal