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Yes, Rafael, you're right.
I'm so owned?
What a weird ship to go down with. Even of the people who would otherwise like him he's putting a wedge for bible thumping F150 drivers. It's like investing in the dot com bubble after it goes down 20% for the first time
Ted Cruz is such a liberal he’s doing the TACO meme lol
doing it to egg him on
Isnt it the houthis that have the slogan "Death to the Zionist Entity. Death to America." or something like that?
Im just gonna leave that there.
{ALLAHU AKBAR!|(God is greatest!)}
{AL MAWT LI 2AMRIKA!|(Death to America!)}
{AL MAWT LI 2ISRA2IL!|(Death to Israel!)}
{AL LA3NA 3ALA L YAHUD!|(A curse upon the Jews!)}^[According to a spokesperson for Ansarallah, this line should be understood as a sort of reversal of the sanctification of Jews in Western culture — the whole idea of Jews as a sacred chosen people, as infallible etc, or as a "sacrificial lamb" for the crimes of Western Empire. Cf. Rev. Wright's "God damn America!". I also recall hearing critiques of the "curse upon" translation of al-la3na 3ala l-yahud as being overly literal, as the phrase "a curse upon" might carry connotations closer to those of a typical swear word. Al-la3na is not necessarily thought of as a swear word by Arabic speakers, but it is something you might shout when surprised or angry, and it is very often used to translate swear words in other languages. So, "God damn the Jews", "fuck the Jews", "Jews ain't shit", these might be better translations depending on your preference. This is how I understand it, at least.]
{AN NASR LIL 2ISLAM!|Victory to Islam!}
I kind of am of the opinion that weve fallen to far into liberalism if were language policing the yemeni resistance against imperial aggression. Even if they literally meant it as a curse to all jews there is no reason to clutch our pearls about it. Itd be like clutching our pearls if an enslaved african in the 1800s said they wanted to kill all white people. They are allowed to be mad and they dont have to be PC about it.
edit: to be clear not saying your lang policing. Just talking in general and about how that became a point of contention.
Finklestein had a good take on this. Said that ”the Israelis are the only Jews that the Yemenis have ever known. How could you blame them?” I’d find a link but I’m on mobile, it was at some college forum with Christopher Hitchens iirc
Also the liberal focus on stuff like that literally empowers people like Trump and neo-nazi's. Because average people get annoyed by it.
The average person thinks: "I'm worried about maintaining my quality of life."
A Nazi says, "It's the jewish elite making your life bad!"
In a vacuum the average person hears that and thinks, "That's a weird thing to say."
But then when the liberals come out and start losing their minds about "Antisemitism is the greatest threat to our society right now!" While not even trying to speak to that average persons concerns the average person goes back to the Nazi and says, "Alright, so what were you saying again? I'm actually curious now."
That is exactly how liberalism breeds fascism. It refuses to acknowledge the real world suffering of everyday people and so they turn to fascism because fascism DOES acknowledge those things. It just deflects blame to some other group of people, but in the eyes of the average person atleast, the fascist is validating their concerns.
That's why it's so important as socialists that we have to be out there speaking to those real issues and telling people what the real problems are. And why it's so important that we NEVER cave in to liberal framing. Because any association with liberals poisons our own message.
It's at least one mechanism of how liberalism breeds fascism. Another mechanism would be liberalism's disproportionate focus on suppressing socialist and labor movements, meanwhile fascist movements are allowed to fester and grow strong enough to "overthrow" a liberal state designed from the beginning to be impotent against that sort of attack. I compare this to lions playfighting with their cubs and deliberately losing. And there are other mechanisms through which liberalism sows its own replacement by fascism, too, I'm sure.
This being said, disingenuous translations that play into ethnic stereotypes are a genuine tool of imperialist propaganda, and I think there is a fine line between doing language policing and playing into liberal framing, versus pointing out inaccurate or unnuanced translations to show liberal propaganda for what it is. The North Korean word for "hamburger" stands out as another example: there's this whole urban myth about Kim Jong-il claiming to have invented the hamburger and calling it "double bread with meat", but this literally never happened! It's just a telephone game of sensationalized bad translations. What actually happened is that Kim Jong-il proposed trying to popularize hamburgers in the DPRK as a way to help feed the people, and hamburgers just ended up being called "meat sandwiches" in North Korean, because North Korean is a more conservative lect with fewer loanwords than South Korean — the North Korean word for "sandwich" itself literally meaning "double bread", hence the deliberately stilted translation of "double bread with meat" in WaCkY MyThS NoRtH KoReAnS AcTuALLy BeLiEvE clickbait articles.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BxKHNr590Wo&t=35
The video you speak of. Simple and excellent argument
I found a YouTube link in your comment. Here are links to the same video on alternative frontends that protect your privacy:
Same in Poland in 1945, anti-german sentiment and hatred was strong because to be german was to be nazi.
Finklestein’s parents notably HATED Germans lol. Also can’t blame them.
Absolutely, and I'm assuming most people here would agree. The footnote is really just so that other people have Ansarallah's own official rhetoric in case they ever need it, but I'm sure that the average Yemeni on the street hasn't given the slogan nearly as much thought as a PR spokesman working with Anglo media, anyways. If nothing else, "because we always hear from our enemy about how the people bombing our shit are all innocent smolbeans chosen and blessed by God" is a good explanation for why "motherfuck the goddamn Jews" feels so particularly cathartic for many Yemenis to shout.
They must have some primo dirt on 
Maldito seas estado de Israel!
click to read my mind
He's like a psychic I swear
We need the Giga-chad-yes emote.
Is that a request?
I guess, but not in the way he means.
those who love israhell, also hate amerikkka. turns out, everyone hates amerikkka
yes
I’m pretty sure none of the two nations are particularly hated, but rather the hate goes towards Zionists for their war crimes. They’ll interpret that as hating the entire nation, or even two regardless, as that serves their agenda of playing the victim card when under pressure.
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