I see the "watch andor" proselytizing swarm is keeping up the good work
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if it's not Michael Clayton in space I'm going to be really disappointed.
It pretty much is Michael Clayton in space. It's basically pandering to leftists who liked that movie.
Tonally, it's more inspiring and humanizing than Clayton, but it's pretty smart.
It's still got that bleak darkness to it.
I choose to believe the rest of the Star Wars canon is in-universe lib fan fiction: “oh, if the good Jedi could just get rid of the evil Emperor, we could fix the Empire and everything would be fine again,” etc.
The events in Andor are the only things that actually happened in-universe. And maybe Rogue One.
I feel like every time a big piece of media comes out now there are a lot of people who come out of the woodwork to say "Yeah yeah, the rest of it is bad but this one is good" or in the case of video games it's often "This piece of DLC or patch fixes it" and I usually find myself still saying "No, actually it's still not for me." Or it's still just bad. All of this is doubled when you're talking about Star Wars. I loved it as a kid, but I outgrew it. Hence my reluctance to even watching it.
Also, I'll be honest here, the more radicalized I become the less I can stand the taste of most media.
This show is different. It is incredible. The writing, acting, plot, themes, visuals, all of it. It's borderline offensive in the sense this is what Star Wars could of been.
This show is different. It is incredible. The writing, acting, plot, themes, visuals, all of it. It’s borderline offensive in the sense this is what Star Wars could of been.
lmao, totally. watching it made me realize just how much star wars stuff is mostly a bunch of fan service mixed in with high dollar special effects of weird beasts, laserswords and telekinesis. then fuckin' Tony Gilroy shows up and puts us in the living places to tell a story about living characters in living communities changing under the heat and pressure of a pervasive, ascendant oppression. for shit's sake, he made me fear tie fighters.
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the sequence on aldahni where occasionally one would scream overhead triggered a memory i had from 15 years ago, when i worked outdoors in a field in the middle of nowhere on an undeveloped flat coastline, but was maybe 50 miles from an army base with an air wing. and like once or twice they would be doing some weird low-flying manuevers where with only 4-5 seconds warning of sound, some gunship hauling ass would scream overhead less than 1,000 feet off the ground. exhilarating and terrifying, the experience coupled with the knowledge that if they had wanted to, i would be in pieces on the ground. i literally hadn't thought about it in years until they recreated that perspective on the show.
i was in the same boat, having just come out of Obi Wan (on a friend's recommendation) thinking like, "man, who even gives a shit about this anymore?" i thought Moses Ingram was compelling, but i was so fatigued on it all. i started the first ep of Andor fully expecting to not give a shit and quit, but it had me in just a few minutes and only set its hooks deeper over time.
its fine, at best. the entire prison planet concept was dumb as fuck and poorly executed, but i haven't seen the final episode.
counterpoint: it was good. what makes you think that?
Prison planet tropes out the wazoo, nonsensical oppression system, zero time to give a fuck about any of the constantly changing cast members, why the fuck does andor keep changing his name and always choose the worst possible option
:ok: well that's your opinion and you're entitled to it. but if you don't think an hour is enough time to learn about and get attached to a cast of characters, what do you think about movies?
also andor changes his name because he's a wanted criminal and he doesn't want to get arrested for murder
He took the name Clem because it was his fathers name and using a pseudonym during a crime is good. He used a different fake name after because he is still literally on the run. All star wars names are stupid
He was going by Keef.
Clem was Aldhani, and Keef was prison. No defense for keef girgo, that shit is hilarious
Chief Keef Girgo
Hell yeah bröther :stalin-smokin:
felt like the prison planet arc existed to sideline andor for a minute while other stuff happened
its what tips him from mercenary to revolutionary, its quite important