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submitted 2 months ago by tonytins@pawb.social to c/news@lemmy.world

The Federal Communications Commission (FCC) wants to make it effectively impossible for people to buy what many call burner phones—a phone not explicitly linked to your identity at the point of purchase—which would impact privacy-conscious people, to domestic abuse survivors, to journalists, and many more. The FCC plans to do this by legally forcing the country’s telecoms to store a wealth of personal information about essentially all phone customers, including a government issued identification number and their physical address, alarming privacy advocates and civil rights activists who compare the measures to those from authoritarian countries where it can be difficult to buy a mobile phone plan without giving up your identity.

The proposed change would drastically shake up how people obtain phone plans in the U.S., and have all sorts of privacy and cybersecurity knock-on effects. The FCC is proposing the data collection partly as a way to combat scammers, with telecoms being required to collect other information on business and foreign customers like the intended use case of their bulk phone plan purchase and their IP address. But the changes would mean telecoms collect data on all new and renewing customers, and the FCC provides a long list of other things that the collected data could help authorities with.

“For decades, civil libertarians have looked overseas at authoritarian countries where the government requires people to register to get a mobile phone to ensure they can be tracked. We never thought that would happen here,” Jay Stanley, senior policy analyst at the American Civil Liberties Union’s (ACLU) Speech, Privacy, and Technology Project told 404 Media in an email. “But make no mistake: with this rulemaking, the government is contemplating taking away people’s ability to get a burner phone, which will hurt low-income people, domestic violence victims, and anyone else who cares about their privacy.”

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[-] folekaule@lemmy.world 95 points 2 months ago

This is just going to mean more phone theft and phone sales going underground. This hurts regular privacy conscious people and changes nothing for criminals.

[-] panda_abyss@lemmy.ca 38 points 2 months ago

Yeah.

Need a burner phone? But a used one with a fake name on eBay.

SMS and phone calls are basically dead anyways, I can easily spin up an encrypted service anyways, and run it off public wifi networks.

[-] HubertManne@piefed.social 22 points 2 months ago

yeah and won't effect scammers at all who will use foreign purchasers of the numbers or bury them in shell companies.

[-] cecilkorik@piefed.ca 4 points 2 months ago

I suspect it would also correlate with a dramatic rise in the popularity of mesh networking.

[-] alapakala@quokk.au 0 points 2 months ago
[-] minorkeys@sh.itjust.works 52 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago)

Control vehicle operability and thus mobility.
Control use of electronic devices, and thus It's empowerment.
Observe all behavior, external and internal, to know and predict behavior.
Remove privacy and anonymity, to target individuals.
Track relationships, to know all associations and idea propagation.
View all 3d printed designs, to steal concepts and monitor use.
Eliminate wealth and ownership, to disempower the masses.

All of this is happening right now. What kind of society does this sound like?

[-] nosuchanon@lemmy.world 26 points 2 months ago
[-] minorkeys@sh.itjust.works 11 points 2 months ago

Only if you're poor!

[-] aramis87@fedia.io 46 points 2 months ago

The FCC is proposing the data collection partly as a way to combat scammers

Lol, that'll never happen, it's just part of the domestic surveillance network.

[-] Bluefalcon@discuss.tchncs.de 28 points 2 months ago

Had my google phone stolen internationally. Called google about it and they said "we can't do anything to brick your phone." I have an old pixel 6a that ws bricked due to the battery and a security patch they pushed.

Funny how things only work in their favor.

[-] Modern_medicine_isnt@lemmy.world 38 points 2 months ago

How about just start with shutting down phone number spoofing. Thanks.

[-] Dionysus@leminal.space 11 points 2 months ago

But that world hurt the free market!

--Some repugnant republican somewhere

[-] MelodiousFunk@slrpnk.net 35 points 2 months ago

Well that should make it easy to identify and shut down/block the call spam farms.

What's that? They don't give a flying fuck about it? Huh, neat.

[-] meowcar42O@lemmy.dbzer0.com 26 points 2 months ago

"Kill burner phones" makes it sound like the only people who don't want to sign up for their phone plan using their id are criminals

[-] MonkeMischief@lemmy.today 23 points 2 months ago

Exactly. The authoritarian retort will be "oH? wHaT dO yOu HaVe To HiDe? HmMmmmM?"

[-] innermachine@lemmy.world 15 points 2 months ago

It's the same on every topic. If for the kids doesn't work, play criminal card. If that doesn't work try the national security or terrorism card.

[-] Assassassin@lemmy.dbzer0.com 25 points 2 months ago

With all of the other privacy related crackdowns that have been popular recently, I just assumed that the government already figured out an easy way to identify burner phone users. It's surprising that it took them this long if that's not the case.

[-] _haha_oh_wow_@sh.itjust.works 21 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago)

Sounds like a ridiculous crackdown on privacy that will do abso-fucking-lutely nothing to actually stop spammers, grifters, or other criminals.

[-] MrKoyun@lemmy.world 19 points 2 months ago

Oh my, another dystopian fucking thing happening. And its only the 8000th one this week!

[-] anon_8675309@lemmy.world 13 points 2 months ago

Anyone feel like all this surveillance is leading up to something?

[-] lemmylump@lemmy.world 10 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago)

I am seriously ready to ditch my phone all together and just have a land line.

I am required to use the phone my employer provides me and on my days off it is off too and in my desk.

[-] AlphaOmega@lemmy.world 4 points 2 months ago

Seems like Google Voice plus public wifi would still allow one to make calls/text without any id associated with it.

[-] TheFogan@programming.dev 7 points 2 months ago

doesn't google voice require another phone number to register?

[-] Maeve@kbin.earth 5 points 2 months ago

Plus it's Google. They already know everything about everyone.

[-] AlphaOmega@lemmy.world 1 points 2 months ago

Oh you're correct I think. It's been a while since I set it up.

Jmp.chat works great and isn't run by fascist toadies. :)

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