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[-] Ooops@feddit.org 3 points 2 hours ago

"The biggest hurdle in the negotiations was likely whether the new means of payment should function exclusively online or also independently of an active internet connection."

How can this even be a question? As long as governments don't give me free internet access and the minimum of required hardware making it online only would be rediculous. Either it's a working system for all citizens not just those who can afford it or it's a conceptional stillbirth.

[-] KurtVonnegut@mander.xyz 9 points 6 hours ago* (last edited 6 hours ago)

There is no "reject all" option for the cookies on this website?

[-] oats@piefed.zip 5 points 6 hours ago

In Germany its legal to demand payment for reject all, that's what you're seeing at heise 🤡

[-] dubak@feddit.org 14 points 5 hours ago* (last edited 5 hours ago)

It's illegal in EU. There is an ongoing complaint against Heise submitted to Data protection authority in North Rhine-Westphalia. Just because the responsible authority has been dragging out the decision for four years, doesn't make it legal.

[-] oats@piefed.zip 5 points 4 hours ago

Thought heise already won in lower courts. Tbh I dont care too much, I trust ublock way more than any reject button anyways

[-] ironblossom@feddit.org -5 points 5 hours ago* (last edited 5 hours ago)

Do you think it’s immoral for press to charge for their work? Next you will complain that they take money from corporations and are in the pocket of the billionaires. Or perhaps you will complain that state news is a waste of your tax euros.

[-] thesdev@feddit.org 4 points 2 hours ago

Do you think it’s immoral for press to charge for their work?

No, it's immoral for them to sell my data. They can advertise without the tracking bullshit too.

[-] Ooops@feddit.org -1 points 3 hours ago* (last edited 2 hours ago)

You had an argument there... and then you mentioned state news. Ones that are just as eager to produce clickbait bullshit and constantly frame everything to either align with one political direction/party -totally coincidently of course- is well-connected with leading positions of those boradcaster or to make even the most rediculous crazy topics a valid opinion in a gigantic shit pile of false balancing. And so your argument sadly fell apart.

Yes, state news as they are right now, are indeed a waste of our tax euros and they don't even come close to doing the job they are supposed to do. They however manage to waste incredible amounts of money on entertainment that is not their job at all, while also only addressing a very narrow spectrum of viewers. That's impressive, but not actually good either...

[-] pleb_maximus@piefed.zip 1 points 2 hours ago

They however manage to waste incredible amounts of money on entertainment that is not their job at all

Except that is their job, too.

[-] oats@piefed.zip 1 points 4 hours ago

No, yes, probably, that's absurd

[-] dubak@feddit.org 2 points 5 hours ago

Heise.de is a crap source. Just downvote it. Barrier-free sources will be posted throughout weekend as they become available.

[-] HumbleExaggeration@feddit.org 5 points 5 hours ago

Puh, the roadmap reads like a 5 year plan. I thought the digital euro was way closer to being introduced. Wasn't there news about it starting in early 2027 a few month back?

[-] HenriVolney@sh.itjust.works 3 points 3 hours ago

That would be Wero, a private alternative of some sort

[-] EatingOnions@lemmy.world 4 points 5 hours ago

As far as I know it was always meant to be launched in 2029

[-] leagman1@feddit.org 10 points 7 hours ago

Looking forward to the digital euro

[-] comrade_twisty@feddit.org 13 points 7 hours ago

I'll celebrate when I finally can ditch VISA and Mastercard. I already don't use them anymore domestically thanks to Twint, but as soon as I cross the border they are currently my only option (even for getting cash).

[-] leagman1@feddit.org 8 points 6 hours ago* (last edited 6 hours ago)

Had to google Twint. It's a Swiss payment app, right?

If I got this right, the recent Wero should be its €-equivalent (edit: eurozone, not € per se).

The digital euro on the other hand - again, if I understand it correctly - is digital cash. So to pay with it, you'd have to have a specific digital pocket for it and then exchange Swiss franc for euro/digital euro.

[-] comrade_twisty@feddit.org 4 points 6 hours ago

Yup, it's our home grown payment app that is widely accepted, from your local butcher and farm store to Mediamarkt and all major grocery stores.

Most of us have Euro accounts too, so exchanging money to use the digital euro abroad is no real issue. I go shopping for groceries and personal hygiene products in Germany once or twice per week.

[-] FlowerFan@piefed.blahaj.zone 1 points 4 hours ago
[-] comrade_twisty@feddit.org 1 points 4 hours ago

Wow no, just no!

I am nowhere near that ugly town.

[-] iammike@programming.dev 9 points 6 hours ago

I'm afraid this is just an excuse for mass surveillance. At least, getting rid of American services is definitely a win.

[-] john_t@piefed.ee 7 points 6 hours ago

The EU is not the bad guy you are looking for. You are already being mass surveilled by Visa and Mastercard.

[-] HereIAm@lemmy.world 6 points 3 hours ago

The EU are absolutely the bad guys if not kept on a short leash. I'm not very confident Chat Control would be stopped unless for the massive campaigning to educate them. They already want to weaken GDPR. Are we the US yet? No, but we all need to be very wary of the power creep. They are also looking into age-verification laws to protect the kids. Not all things EU are benevolent.

[-] john_t@piefed.ee 1 points 1 hour ago* (last edited 1 hour ago)

They are also looking into age-verification laws
They should! Call me old fashioned but kids really shouldn't be on Facebook, Instagram, Tiktok, etc. It's just turning them into sociopaths manipulated by billionaires.

[-] Barbarian@sh.itjust.works 2 points 2 hours ago

Completely agree. I'm hugely supportive of the EU, the things it has accomplished and the future potential. However, blindly agreeing with everything it does with black and white thinking is how we sleepwalk into our own authoritarian dystopia.

[-] Ooops@feddit.org 1 points 2 hours ago

Oh, they are absolutely the bad guy we are looking for. Constantly working on undermining our privacy rights on behalf of lobbyists from US companies and organisations competing against those US companies now mostly in control of our data, is neither good nor pro EU souvereignity.

[-] dieTasse@feddit.org 2 points 5 hours ago

They are not... Today... I bet Americans said the same years ago.

[-] leagman1@feddit.org 1 points 6 hours ago* (last edited 6 hours ago)

Same. But if we somehow manage to make it not go to shit, it'd be just very strong and convenient imo. That's a big if ofc.

[-] HenriVolney@sh.itjust.works 1 points 3 hours ago

Well, the rollout is a bit sketchy but it looks like it could really work

[-] oats@piefed.zip 1 points 4 hours ago

Hopefully its not such a shit show like wero is now

[-] FiskFisk33@startrek.website 2 points 6 hours ago

Lol I can't get past the german cookie-wall

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