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A quick Chinese lesson (thelemmy.club)
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[-] tomiant@piefed.social 2 points 21 hours ago

"It's complicated"

[-] hOrni@lemmy.world 194 points 3 days ago
[-] Thorry@feddit.org 135 points 3 days ago

Listen here you little shit

[-] sem@piefed.blahaj.zone 2 points 10 hours ago

Listen here you little dope /*6 yo me confused face

[-] okwhateverdude@lemmy.world 65 points 3 days ago

I'm at a loss for words

[-] funkajunk@lemmy.world 44 points 3 days ago
[-] danekrae@lemmy.world 17 points 3 days ago

Just enough to make the Kessel Run in less than twelve parsecs.

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[-] FauxLiving@lemmy.world 9 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago)

I'm at a loss

e:f;b

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[-] napkin2020@sh.itjust.works 122 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago)

1 = 壹 2 = 貳 3 = 參 4 = 肆 5 = 伍

These exist as well.

They're used in places where numbers should NOT be forged(i.e. bank documents...)

This is how they got their numeric meanings btw.

[-] danekrae@lemmy.world 57 points 3 days ago

So 伍 is not 5, but five.

[-] lightnsfw@reddthat.com 23 points 3 days ago

Their math homework must take forever

[-] lugal@sopuli.xyz 15 points 3 days ago

I don't get 4. At least the kanji 4 looks very different

[-] NikkiDimes@lemmy.world 15 points 3 days ago

Yeaaaah, I don't know Chinese, but I've never seen a kanji of four horizontal lines, just 四 for 4

[-] JollyBrancher@sh.itjust.works 9 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago)

I never learned it as four lines. 四 was the way to do it. Maybe locally or something the hip kids are doing? Source: Mandarin professor ETA: I was a person of simplified Chinese though

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[-] kshade@lemmy.world 55 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago)

The concept of zero is scary, so it's a wizard shooting lightning from all orifices. Makes sense.

[-] WhatThaFudge@lemmy.world 15 points 3 days ago

Under the arms and from the butt are the orifices?

[-] Grass@sh.itjust.works 13 points 3 days ago
[-] MonkeMischief@lemmy.today 10 points 3 days ago

This got weird SO fast.

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[-] andros_rex@lemmy.world 23 points 2 days ago

No one has mentioned special 2, 两! It’s only for counting certain things.

[-] Scrollone@feddit.it 10 points 2 days ago

I mean... in English we also use different words, such as "pair" and "dozen", for some specific numbers.

[-] HeyThisIsntTheYMCA@lemmy.world 5 points 2 days ago

that's because the english language numbers are based off of base 12, not base 10

[-] Bassman1805@lemmy.world 2 points 2 days ago

But those are just words for "a group of a special size"

Some eastern languages have totally different counting words depending on WHAT you're counting. One set of number-words for flat things, another set for long things, another set for printed/bound things, another set for things with handles...

[-] Don_alForno@feddit.org 6 points 2 days ago

Two guys carrying a table?

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[-] blx@piefed.zip 69 points 3 days ago

Sure, when you mean "zero" it may look a bit excessive. But it's quite adequate if you want to express "Void, the Dark Realm of Nothingness and End of All Things".

ps: Glory to ZA̡͊͠͝LGΌ.

[-] Phantaloons@piefed.zip 13 points 2 days ago

"Three, Two, One... NOTHING"

scratches head in Mandarin

[-] ALoafOfBread@lemmy.ml 61 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago)

Yeah líng 零 is pretty annoying as a learner of the language.

The top character is yŭ 雨 which means rain. Confusingly, this is the semantic component - the part that contains the meaning of the character. Explained below.

The bottom character líng 令 means order/command as a noun and verb. This doesn't add meaning, it is the phonetic component: basically a pronunciation cue.

It originally meant "light rain"/"falling in drops, like rain", actually. It began being used to mean "fragments" or "leftover part", then as "remainder" in the mathematical sense. Then, eventually, to mean 0. Another form of líng is 霝 which means raindrops. It has 3 kŏu 口 ("mouth") characters on the bottom to visually represent drops.

So, like a lot of Chinese characters, it really only makes sense when you understand the etymology - and even then it's kind of a stretch

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[-] Zannsolo@lemmy.world 15 points 2 days ago

You don't divide by 0 in Chinese because he'll jump off the page and kick your ass.

[-] FosterMolasses@leminal.space 8 points 2 days ago

Lmao, I just picked up learning Kanji again after like 3 years (never had time in grad school)

It is rough. But fierce repetition helps a lot. I can see the characters for "read a book" whenever I close my eyelids now hahaha

Once something turns into muscle memory you don't forget.

[-] HeyThisIsntTheYMCA@lemmy.world 5 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago)

write all of the numbers on top of each other then scribble on them. does that look anything like zero? i don't know kanji, i'm just understanding my own bad handwriting and trying to understand how they'd get there

[-] webpack@ani.social 2 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

nope, doesn't come from that rei character breakdown here's the kanji breakdown (note that kanji is stolen from Chinese)

[-] farmgineer@nord.pub 12 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago)

Japanese enters the chat:

Left: numeral; middle: regular writing; final: certain formal and non-forgery usecases.

または in point 7 means either variant is OK

The last line says one can use the modern yen sign as well (though some would argue that it's bad manners in at least some situations, but I have no dog in that fight).

万 = 10k. Several countries use both 1k and 10k units (Japan traditionally was on the 10k side but had a lot of influence so now we see both a lot. A used car price might be 130万円 or something ( = 1,300,000 yen)

数字	通常の漢字	金額で使う旧字体(大字)  
0	零	零  
1	一	壱  
2	二	弐  
3	三	参  
4	四	肆  
5	五	伍  
6	六	陸  
7	七	柒(または 漆)  
8	八	捌  
9	九	玖  
10	十	拾  
100	百	佰  
1k	千	仟  
万	万	萬  
円	円	圓(もしくは「円」のまま)  

Chart from here that looks better: https://saiseich.com/business/kanji_kingaku/

We have a way of writing numbers in certain situations. Think of it like checks in the US where we write things in a certain way so that the numbers can't be easily changed to increase the value or something.

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[-] Mwa 15 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago)

well atleast this post + Comments taught me some Chinese.

[-] Jyek@sh.itjust.works 20 points 3 days ago

And now an English lesson:

The past tense of teach is taught. Teached is not a word.

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[-] JennaR8r@lemmy.dbzer0.com 8 points 2 days ago

Three pigs

Two pigs

One pig

Zero pig ? Or zero pigs?

Honest question. Do we pluralize nouns of zero count? Or should they be singular?

[-] AlfalFaFail@lemmy.ml 12 points 2 days ago

It's plural, but not because there are many pigs.

"How many pigs are there?" And answering with "There are no pigs" use the noun "pigs" in the same way. They are referring to the "pig" category or kind. When answering knowing the actual count, it's a specific number or token.

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