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[-] curiousaur@reddthat.com 22 points 1 hour ago

It is truly, deeply amazing how bad Microsoft is. Proton on Linux is FASTER than the actual directX it's emulating is on windows. They got beat at their own instruction layer.

[-] 3abas@lemmy.world 6 points 26 minutes ago

Proton (and Wine, what it's based on) are not emulators. They are compatibility layers, it translates Windows system calls to native Linux system calls.

[-] Kaiserschmarrn@feddit.org 5 points 17 minutes ago

Or simply put: Wine Is Not an Emulator

[-] MrKoyun@lemmy.world 2 points 14 minutes ago

Yes... I actually cannot fathom just how incessantly bad a company can manage to be, and how some people still refuse to realise how there's literally nothing of value to be had from anything made by Microsoft.

[-] VAK@lemmy.world 9 points 2 hours ago

Microsoft could have been king with with chatgpt for personal superapp, github copilot for developers and something like sharepoint/power vibe widgets. But nooo, they make windows recall when ai models can't run locally

[-] Auth@lemmy.world 9 points 1 hour ago* (last edited 1 hour ago)

if they had made a unified copilot agent they would have won. Think open claw with the power of NPUs for small tasks and cloud for big queries dedicated APIs for interacting with all the microsoft products special tailored version for developers. More focus on retrieving information and doing small tasks for the user than generating slop.

The first versions they released were so fucking bad and every app had basically just a chatbot with zero functionality. It ruined the product for when it could actually do tasks.

[-] trashboat@piefed.social 23 points 4 hours ago

Just like Skype getting lapped by Zoom during COVID

[-] marcos@lemmy.world 72 points 6 hours ago

Lol! Be like GitLab instead:

1 - Be the underdog with good reputation in a market completely monopolized;

2 - Have the incumbent self-destruct by vibecoding its product and pushing AI above every other feature to its customers;

3 - Loudly announce that you are leaving your past good behavior behind, and that you are betting everything on vibecoding and pushing AI to your customers!

[-] Dadifer@lemmy.world 132 points 9 hours ago

Microsoft never fails to disappoint

[-] SaharaMaleikuhm@feddit.org 2 points 49 minutes ago

It's really so funny to watch when you don't use any of their junk

[-] jjfolken@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 points 31 minutes ago

Failing successfully tho.

[-] dohpaz42@lemmy.world 49 points 9 hours ago

Huh. I guess Microsoft and I have that in common.

🥁

[-] the_joeba@lemmy.world 29 points 7 hours ago

You forgot the symbol crash at the end. How disappointing.

[-] homesweethomeMrL@lemmy.world 11 points 6 hours ago
[-] red_tomato@lemmy.world 53 points 9 hours ago

Their idea was that OpenAI was so far ahead of the competition no one could ever catch up. Turns out they weren’t and now they’re at the bottom.

[-] FaceDeer@fedia.io 18 points 8 hours ago

Google: "We Have No Moat, And Neither Does OpenAI". Prophetic words.

[-] MrKoyun@lemmy.world 1 points 20 minutes ago

It's so beautiful to read a giant corporation realise that they are hopeless and have no game to play.

[-] cenzorrll@piefed.ca 21 points 8 hours ago

I see this as proof of how bad LLMs actually are. You have an AI trained on essentially humanity's collective programming library. Languages of machines and computers. The result should be ungodly and near perfection. If there was any semblance of understanding in AI, it should be revealed in it's capability to produce code.

Although... I can definitely see Microsoft thinking that their code is the example of perfection and training copilot on that rather than github.

[-] terranoid@lemmy.cafe 26 points 7 hours ago* (last edited 7 hours ago)

should be ungodly and near perfection

Counterpoint: garbage in, garbage out

[-] homesweethomeMrL@lemmy.world 7 points 6 hours ago

Oh right, that.

[-] FaceDeer@fedia.io 17 points 8 hours ago

Your proof of how bad LLMs are is the fact that there are a bunch of other companies producing way better coding agents and coding models than Microsoft is? I'm not sure how that follows. Those other agents are good, that's the point of this.

[-] jjj@lemmy.blahaj.zone 1 points 47 minutes ago

I would (probably not literally) wager that by "this" they meant *looks around at entire world*...

this

[-] jaybone@lemmy.zip 1 points 4 hours ago

Do they still do Hungarian warts?

[-] borth@sh.itjust.works 6 points 6 hours ago

"if they're gonna steal, they should at least do it right" I mean, I can see how someone would want to think that, but I'm fine with them failing to steal.

[-] psycotica0@lemmy.ca 5 points 5 hours ago

I don't know the original author's opinions on AI, but I think it's still fair to say that it was clearly Copilot's goal to steal all the code and be good, and they had all the code, and so ethics aside one would expect them to have succeeded with flying colour at whatever their goals were, even if those were bad goals.

But they failed instead, which is impressive.

[-] Bloefz@lemmy.world 28 points 9 hours ago

It's weird because copilot in office tries to push agents on you as if it were a Jehovah's witness.

So GitHub copilot doesn't have them? I don't really use that.

[-] KoboldCoterie@pawb.social 59 points 9 hours ago

It's saying Copilot was the first on the scene and had access to literally all of the training data anyone could possibly want, and is still being shown up by most other AI models. Their failure to capture the vibe coding space is a legendary fumble. At least that was my read.

[-] Bloefz@lemmy.world 8 points 5 hours ago* (last edited 5 hours ago)

Eh wait. Copilot (any of the about 30 products with copilot in the name) is not a model. Microsoft makes a few models like phi but they're underwhelming. All of copilot runs on models from external parties like openai and anthropic. So basically Microsoft is at the mercy of their own competitors. They're in the awkward position that providing training data to their model providers not only improves their own product but their competitors' as well.

Additionally, Microsoft's most profitable market is enterprise and they would absolutely shiver at their data being used for training and would abandon the service in droves.

Despite being "all in on AI" Microsoft is in a really vulnerable position. Their added value is their integration with their other services (and data therein through RAG).

[-] TowardsTheFuture@lemmy.zip 4 points 9 hours ago

Pfffft. No way. That would be like the company that owned skype failing to capitalize on video calls during some sort of major pandemic.

[-] Town@lemmy.zip 3 points 6 hours ago

At least Minecraft has been a success

[-] Mika@piefed.ca 4 points 9 hours ago

They have agents, but they weren't the first to make agents, and they aren't the most advanced agentic system too. Maybe someone can enlighten me but I don't see a single strong upside.

[-] TheOctonaut@piefed.zip 3 points 9 hours ago

It does have agents.

No idea what the person above thinks. Maybe they think agents are just those little toys where you build an app in an iframe from a chat on the side.

I mean, GitHub has one of those, but CoPilot agents are primarily directed from CLI, the Issues system, and in VSCode. Because GitHub makes their money from enterprises who employ developers, not I've Got An App Idea guys.

[-] Midnitte@beehaw.org 13 points 8 hours ago

It is impressive how much better claude is than copilot specifically for coding.

Like... how much bullshit is in Windows to learn off of, let alone github.

[-] JoShmoe@ani.social 9 points 8 hours ago
[-] FaceDeer@fedia.io 9 points 8 hours ago

Nah, green is woke.

[-] favoredponcho@lemmy.zip 3 points 7 hours ago* (last edited 7 hours ago)

And fail at the basic task of keeping GitHub running with 99% uptime in the meantime

this post was submitted on 18 May 2026
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