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[–] 229 points 4 months ago (2 children)

send the tikkie back for the gas.

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  • [–] 82 points 4 months ago (1 child)

    Hmm, you spoke to me on the ride? Here's my consulting fee for the length of it.

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  • [–] 44 points 4 months ago

    Sure, here's 50 cents for the coffee.

    Now here's the bill for the ride, the seat cleaning where you sat, the new air freshener since that's obviously been used now, my consulting fee, conversation fee, silence fee, and an additional 47.30 for various small consumables like oil, coolant, washer fluid...

    Adds up to 1.846,97EUR for the day. You can send that whenever.

    Oh right, almost forgot the €200 calculation fee.

    Also it's a 30% interest rate per day for late fees

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  • [–] 103 points 4 months ago (4 children)

    https://dutchreview.com/expat/tikkie-netherlands/

    Tikkie is an online payment app that allows you to forward payment requests to people via WhatsApp or pay through a QR code.

    I hope that, if this isn't fake and gay, it was just for the lulz.

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  • [–] 52 points 4 months ago (3 children)

    Either that or dude expected to receive one himself for the gas.

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  • [–] 14 points 4 months ago (2 children)

    It may have even been a prompt to send one for the gas. That seems a bit indirect for Dutch, but Dutch directness sometimes seems to take surprising forms.

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  • [–] 102 points 4 months ago (16 children)

    I'd pay the 0.50 euro as soon a possible without a word.

    Then never offer to drive to do anything with them again.

    I've found that people who do this are either doing it as a joke and will let you know right away .... or they are dead serious and it's the kind of person you really want to avoid in every kind of way.

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  • [–] 18 points 4 months ago

    Eh. Yeah, but at least you know where you stand with them, and everything will be strictly business. If there's some business-like value to keeping the relationship, then just treat it like a business relationship, and see how it goes. I wouldn't bail on someone like this for that alone, but I wouldn't hang out with them as friends either.

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  • [–] 8 points 4 months ago* (12 children)

    Or maybe it's just cultural differences with a pinch of autism. TBH I'm not quite clear on how "Dutch" the guy in OP's story is or where this even takes place, but AFAIK this would be completely normal behavior among friends and acquaintances in the Netherlands.

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  • [–] 41 points 4 months ago (10 children)

    As a Dutch person , I have heard of behaviour like this before, but I wouldn't consider it normal. Most dutch people would consider this asshole behavior. If you offer something, either you name a price up front or you don't get anything for it.

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  • [–] 6 points 4 months ago (7 children)

    Question for you (completely off topic from your conversation with the other person). How believable is this story without broodje hagelslag being served? I need to know how accurate my Dutch lessons are.

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  • [–] 10 points 4 months ago

    LOL, hagelslag is just something to put on your bread like peanut butter or cheese. Some like it, some don't, but I wouldn't offer a coworker breakfast if they were to pick me up for work.

    On-topic; this story is the kind of thing you hear about, but never experience. It's something that could almost happen, but you'd have to be a cheap skate by Dutch standards to actually do this.

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  • [–] 4 points 4 months ago (1 child)

    Is asking for money for coffee in your home not considered assholish prima fascia in the Netherlands?

    Here in the US within the bounds of the home food and drink that is offered is expected to be a gift, and if you charge for anything it's admission to a party or you pass a hat around for people to pay what they can. Typically though it's either basic hospitality for small things or you should give in kind (bring a dish or some alcohol to share) for parties.

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  • [–] 4 points 4 months ago

    Yep, exactly.

    If they can have a sense of humor about it, probably a decent, if cheeky, somewhat assholish, but maybe in an endearing / self-aware way, kind of person.

    If they cannot?

    Avoid avoid avoid avoid avoid.

    They're an entitled manipulator, and have absolutely no respect for you.

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  • [–] 82 points 4 months ago (5 children)

    OK so I understand the Dutch have a reputation, but if you are making your ride wait on you because you aren't ready at the appointed time - nevermind the fact that your ride isn't charging you for gas (one hopes, since OP is going anyway and offered to pick him up, to do so would be just as rude as the coffee) - it would just be too unbelievably outrageous to bill them half a Euro. I have to conclude that this is ragebait.

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    [–] 65 points 4 months ago* (1 child)

    For all who don't know, Tikkie is/was the Dutch equivalent of Venmo/PayPal.

    Also this is one of the few rare real green texts. The correct reply in this case is just to send them an overinflated tikkie back. For example 5 euro for the ride since hey, your car depreciates during the ride! Seriously... 50 cents for a cup of coffee, even in this economy.

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  • [–] 58 points 4 months ago (13 children)

    If it is true, which I doubt, I think the fact OP is Belgian should account for it being a joke. Belgians are the butt of the joke in that region the same way 'Irish logic' is a joke in the UK.

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  • [+] 10 points 4 months ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago) (5 children)
  • [–] 7 points 4 months ago (1 child)

    'Irish logic' is where things are backwards, in a specific way. It's kind of a single mindedness. Usually it's a misunderstanding-based joke, not exactly stupidity, but a silly perspective. E.g. it takes more Irishmen to change a light bulb because one holds it and the others swing the ceiling round.
    I'm first generation Irish immigrant, and my family loves these kinds of jokes, we don't see it as hateful. But I wouldn't tell them around any old Irish person.

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  • [–] 41 points 4 months ago (1 child)

    Guessing this is a Belgium (Flemish) vs. Netherland joke.

    Like Norway jokes about Swedes, and every other random neighboring countries you care to mention

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    [–] 40 points 4 months ago

    Dutch relatives. He was serious. My grandpa used to damage soup cans in the grocery store, then demand a discount on them.

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  • [–] 33 points 4 months ago

    Am Dutch, this is too relatable. Fucking hilarious

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  • [–] 20 points 4 months ago (1 child)

    Send one back. Check what a taxi would cost, plus a 10% convenience fee.

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    [–] 18 points 4 months ago (4 children)

    Ive never met a Dutch person or been to the Netherlands nor do I consume any Dutch media. But this seems like something they would do. It seems the Dutch are extremely fair.

    Like the Dutch man might be worried that if he doesnt charge his coworker something then his coworker will worry about paying him back in some way. So he gives him an easy out and bills him 50c.

    The coworker actually scammed the Dutch guy because he didnt bill him for the car ride and now the Dutch man owes him something.

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  • [–] 13 points 4 months ago (1 child)

    Sounds backwards considering it could have just been coffee for ride if there NEEDS to be a transaction. Not everything needs to be an even trade

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  • [–] 6 points 4 months ago

    Transactionalism is more proof that humanity has reached the point past where it is actually desirable.

    What kind of civilization could such people build? Where they can't do anything for another person, without giving them some ticket ti charge them?

    I have done things for people knowing full well it is a gift, and that I have no right to ask for anything back.

    This species disgusts me with it's illusionary, fake righteousness.

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  • [–] 14 points 4 months ago

    If it's true it's an exemption. Maybe some stupid stereotype. Definitely NOT typical for the Dutch. (I am non Dutch and live in the Netherlands).

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  • [–] 5 points 4 months ago

    Sounds fake. Caricature.

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  • [–] 4 points 4 months ago (13 children)

    Maybe this is just a weird Dutch way to offer to pay for gas?

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