Usually its like just a few words sprinkled in, or at most like one or two lines...

Literally I feel like they're just trying to say: "Hey this is a foreign language I'm sooo cooool!"

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[–] 59 points 4 months ago (5 children)

It's not unheard of there to be English language tracks that drop in random French, Italian or Spanish words and phrases

It's just regular cultural exposure to other languages ultimately. No rule says you need to stick to one language in a song, so some musicians throw in some stuff from other languages they've heard, because why not

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    [–] 51 points 4 months ago* (9 children)

    You know how many French words/phrases I hear in English songs? Coup de x, raison d'être, déjà vu, etc

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  • [–] 29 points 4 months ago* (7 children)

    Not to mention the use of hors d'oeuvres, cul-de-sac, faux pas, rendezvous, cliche....

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  • [–] 23 points 4 months ago (6 children)

    And then there's the German ones: kindergarten, eigenvalues, ...

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  • [–] 10 points 4 months ago (2 children)

    Please show me songs about eigenvalues.

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    [–] 35 points 4 months ago* (11 children)

    This is more of a question than a thought, but apparently the English language borrows from lots of Latin-ish and other alphabetic languages of centuries past.

    Yes English is awkward. I didn't write the rules or definitions either. 🤷

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  • [–] 11 points 4 months ago (10 children)

    Just think.

    Right now at your local hardware store are tons of tools you can buy. If you need to cut something, you can buy a saw.

    And when you use the saw, the word "saw" is the verb of how you use the noun. So you'd use a saw to saw.

    And if you had an instinct to cut a saw in half, you might use a second saw to cut the first saw in half.

    But you wouldn't do that. YOU have no desire to do that. But maybe someone else does. And maybe you just happened to bear witness to the cutting of the saw. You will have seen it. And since thats now in past tense, you saw it happen.

    In which case you will have saw a saw saw a saw.

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  • [–] 12 points 4 months ago (3 children)

    I'm probably gonna fuck this up, it's something of an old 'meme', before I was even born in 1982. Anyways, an old riddle I once heard, from a book written before I was born...

    Riddle...

    • You're stuck in a room, no windows and no doors.
    • All you have is a table and a mirror, how you get out?

    Answer...

    • You look in the mirror and see what you saw.
    • You use the saw to cut the table in half.
    • Two halves make a whole.
    • You climb through the hole and you're out!

    Yeah, works better verbally LMFAO!

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  • [–] 5 points 4 months ago (1 child)

    I once saw a man in Arkansas, who had a saw which could out saw any saw that it saw saw; the man said, "Have you saw a saw that could out saw the saw you saw in Arkansas? If you have saw a saw that could out saw the saw you saw in Arkansas, show me the saw saw."; when he said that I saw a saw, I said, "Yes I did saw a saw in Arkansas, and what a saw I saw, that saw saw!!"

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  • [–] 25 points 4 months ago

    English contains a veritable shitload of loanwords as well.

    But you're not wrong when you think they're trying to be cool. You'll hear this most often in hiphop, which started in English and not every language lends itself to rap. So they throw in an f-bomb here or there. Imitation is the highest form of flattery type stuff.

    Also, English is the most commonly learned foreign language on this planet. A lot of contemporary music genres came out of North America. I would say internet culture is most pervasive in English as well. A lot of tech jargon becomes English loanwords in other languages. There are reasons beyond wanting to sound cool as well.

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  • [–] 23 points 4 months ago

    As if US music isn't full of random Spanish words

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  • [–] 21 points 4 months ago (2 children)

    you know the saying that english is five languages in a trenchcoat that drags other languages into alleyways to ruffle through their pockets for loose nouns?

    english is basically the european pidgin language.

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  • [–] 21 points 4 months ago (1 child)

    Umm.. don’t plenty of English language songs do this too?

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    [–] 21 points 4 months ago (1 child)

    Oh well, que sera sera.....

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  • [–] 20 points 4 months ago

    Not just songs, but all the other languages showing up in English comes up conversationally too! When you did something wrong, there's the "mea culpa". Or in the courts, there are tons of Latin phrases like "nolo contendre". I've had "perritos calientes" (hot dogs, literally hot puppies) in Spain, but never have I had a "giant cheese" (quesadilla) or "little donkey" (burrito) in the states. And we just borrow other phrases as-is like "Je ne sais quoi" and schadenfreude.

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  • [–] 17 points 4 months ago (6 children)

    Domo arigato, Mr. Roboto.....
    Michelle, ma belle, Sont des mots qui vont très bien ensemble....
    Psycho Killer, Qu'est-ce que c'est?....
    Voulez-vous coucher avec moi, ce soir?....
    Jeux sans frontières, Hans plays with Lotte, Lotte plays with Jane...
    Eyes without a face, Les yeux sans visage....
    This indecision's buggin' me (esta indecisión me molesta)...
    Ooh, appelle-moi, mon chéri, appelle-moi, Anytime, anyplace, anywhere, any way....
    and many more.

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    [–] 14 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago)

    ♫ Voulez-Vous Coucher Avec Moi Ce Soir ♫

    Yes, I can imagine. It's done literally all the time, in every genre.

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  • [–] 13 points 4 months ago (2 children)

    The english language literally steals words from other languages and adopts them.

    Macabre Ennui Taco Plaza Café Ballet Cuisine Restaurant Elite Genre Police Patio Rodeo Canyon Guitar Tomato Mosquito Hamburger Wanderlust Angst Pizza Pasta Piano Opera Balcony Volcano Algebra

    I can keep going but I think you get the point. Some english songs do throw in other languages at times too.

    Many Asian songs, especially Japanese and Korean will often include english because they are all taught english in school and english is used in the business world. When visiting Korea and Japan, in major cities, a large amount of signage will include english to aid tourists.

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    [–] 10 points 4 months ago

    Same reason some English songs have random words in other languages I guess.

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  • [–] 9 points 4 months ago (6 children)

    I was in Germany once many years ago, and was riding the train with a bunch of college kids. They only swore in English, everything else was German.

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    [–] 8 points 4 months ago

    I don't have to because there are? Does no one recall those guts who were Kung Fu fighting? The rumor is that those cats were fast as lightning.

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  • [–] 7 points 4 months ago* (2 children)

    In Dutch we have a term called "borrowed words", those are words we stole from a different language.

    For example "Portefeuille" is a Dutch word, but it originate from the French. Another example is "computer", we do not have/use a Dutch variant.

    Using these words in a song will sound like your described. But it's actually still Dutch

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    [–] 7 points 4 months ago

    Just looking at the words in your title, “country”, “random”, and “imagine” were all borrowed from Old French.

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  • [–] 7 points 4 months ago (2 children)

    This happens all the time with music. Especially with bilingual people. Maybe listen to more music, kid.

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    [–] 6 points 4 months ago

    I can think of quite a few English songs with random words from other languages.

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  • [–] 6 points 4 months ago*

    I don't have to imagine it.

    I listen to Mars Volta. They like to use random, non-English words a lot. But they usually use them correctly in the English sentence if you look up what the word is, which is not at all like most Japanese music I've heard injecting English into the Japanese. Most of the time, the Japanese music I listen to is being really nonsensical and seems to just throw the english in because it sounds cool, not because it fits any meaning.

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  • [–] 5 points 4 months ago

    Spanish phrases or even entire Spanish verses aren't unheard of in English-language music

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  • [–] 5 points 4 months ago (1 child)

    Yes, but english has like 30% or original germanic roots and rest is a mix of french, latin, spanish, greek and you name it. I would hazard a guess that english is one of the most loanloaded languages in the world.

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    [–] 5 points 4 months ago

    That would've been brilliant for Firefly.

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  • [–] 5 points 4 months ago

    laughs in sigaretta

    Multilanguage songs are the best thing. It's part of artistic expression, and a reminder to ourselves that at some point, all humans came from a different place.

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  • [–] 5 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago)

    It's almost always bigger languages.

    Karel nese asi čaj by Jiří Korn and Vilém Čok

    This Czechoslovak song is mostly in Czech but also features number sequences from (in order of appearance): German, French, Italian, English, Czech. (The younger singer, Vilém Čok, was not explicitly anti-Communist but the censor ruined his career anyway because this song was "too weird", and it didn't recover except for the 1-minute intros to Ducktales and Chip'n'Dale he sang in 1990. That was recently ruled illegal even by 80s standards but the censor got a slap on the wrist. Čok was audibly laughing at the verdict because there was little else he could do.)

    Another non-English ones that come to mind are 1980s parodies of the countless Italian hits from back then (Sarà perché ti amo, Made in Italy, Ti amo, L'italiano etc.) by Jaroslav Uhlíř and Karel Šíp with some self-referential humor. I think that's why my aunt, a language teacher, learned Italian first and only got good at English after failing to find a job in the 00s.

    But otherwise, the foreign-language content people mostly consume is English, and the songs reflect that. (Even imported words − do you think „fajn“ (pronounced fine) as seen in „One, two, three, všechno, co je fajn, se smí“ (a line from the aforementioned song) is from German fein meaning “delicate”?)

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  • [–] 5 points 4 months ago (1 child)

    Literally I feel like they're just trying to say: "Hey this is a foreign language I'm sooo cooool!"

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BYvhhMjW32k

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    [–] 4 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago)

    Not just songs. F***ing english "sprinkles" are everywhere and it's annoying beyond words. "Myllärin by Helsingin mylly". 11 cases out of 10 it sounds imbecile, not cool.

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  • [–] 4 points 4 months ago

    I wager the same reason a lot of comic books reference japanese culture or style in some form: they revolutionized comic illustration and printing technology for the modern era.

    The USA had a similar effect on Television, movies, and radio broadcasts.

    If tomorrow India invented a Neutron Teleportation based communication technology and used it to broadcast media to a receiver through the crust of the earth faster than sattelite, then whatever media they broadcast in the beginning would likely have longlasting impacts on culture everywhere.

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  • [–] 4 points 4 months ago (1 child)

    If you listen to Gothic, Medieval, or Metal music, they mix different languages all the time. Finnish and English. Italian and French. And anything can be mixed with Latin. It's quite normal.

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    [–] 4 points 4 months ago

    Bismillah, No!

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  • [–] 4 points 4 months ago

    I think it just stands out because you suddenly understand a word in a different context. When English does it it doesn't stand out because it's so riddled with words from different origins that basically any random mouth sound passes as a plausible English word.

    I went to a cafe and perused the menu, but I didn't see anything I liked, not even coffee, so I waltzed out and went to the gourmet delicatessen across the street where I got a Reuben with extra sauerkraut. Hard to say no to corned beef.
    Afterwards I picked up the kid from kindergarten, and we picked a restaurant to go to. I wanted sushi, and they wanted tacos, so we compromised and got hamburgers.
    We went home, took a shower with the new shampoo, got into our pajamas and read our favorite genre of story: macho poncho wearing jungle robots singing opera karaoke in a salsa tsunami.

    We didn't adopt the words to be cool, it just fit better. It's hardly surprising that other languages would at least occasionally find one of ours useful in some mysterious way that words blend across languages.

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  • [–] 4 points 4 months ago (3 children)

    Watch firefly, they have a lot chinese words mixed in with English. I don't speak Chinese, so I don't know if it's real, but subtitles say [mandarin] so I assume they're real words. But they flip flop quite beautifully.

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