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[-] Semi_Hemi_Demigod@lemmy.world 87 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago)

The more I actually work with AI the more I hear echoes of the dot-com boom.

It’s actually useful for some things. You can run a simple one locally to do some neat stuff. It’s an interesting technology that will revolutionize some specific applications

But it’s not going to change human nature. It’s not going to help with resource shortages. It’s gonna add a significant amount to human capability but it’s gonna come with downsides like everything. And those downsides will be made worse because people are awful.

You're spot on there, but the one difference is the scale of investment. There's WAY more money tied up in it this time, which means the bubble bursting is going to be way more painful

[-] vrek@programming.dev 11 points 2 days ago

Is it real money or "value evaluations"?? For example Tesla stock is worth way money then all of tesla's assets. It's a lot of money because many people think it will be worth more tomorrow than it is today. If tesla went out of business tomorrow no real money has disappeared, just people's hope of future money disappears. In wars, like Ukraine or Iran, real money gets destroyed. A person used to have "x" and now "x" is no longer. If openai went out of business tomorrow, what was lost? Some investors will find out their idea of future profits was wrong.

Is it real money or "value evaluations"?? For example Tesla stock is worth way money then all of tesla's assets. It's a lot of money because many people think it will be worth more tomorrow than it is today. If tesla went out of business tomorrow no real money has disappeared, just people's hope of future money disappears

Yeah, unfortunately that's not the way the economy works.

Yes, the entire banking system and the share investment system are a con, but that hallucination is our financial system.

Those value-less Tesla shares are owned by someone's pension scheme/401K/superannuation/whatever you call it where you live.

Telsa goes to zero and yeah maybe nothing real is lost, but lots of money is - lots of people will have just had their retirements pulled out from under them...etc etc... that money went up in smoke that was supposed to be the funds for them to retire.

So, as someone who watched the dotcom crash closely and did an economics degree...when the AI bubble bursts it will reallocate money. If you think you'll be a winner from that, well, I've not chatted to the 1% before - are you a Musk, a Trump, an Ellison a Bezos ?

'Cos if you aren't it IS going to bite you. Well, while ever we subscribe to the current hallucination about money, ditch that and obviously things change

[-] Sprocketfree@sh.itjust.works 5 points 2 days ago

Almost as if everyone with a pension should go look what their managers are buying and maybe ask them to drop Tesla... A year ago

[-] vrek@programming.dev 5 points 2 days ago

Yeah you're right about investments like pensions/401k whatever. I won't be a winner, we will see if I even will be a survivor. I don't think the major Ai companies will completely die because most of them have other revenue sources, Nvidia Microsoft etc will still be there and there stock will still be valuable. Anthropic may turn to ash, openai will probably be incorporated into Microsoft. The small companies selling bespoke Ai solutions may die or thrive depending on if they are actually producing something useful but likely won't have a tremendous effect on the stock market.

Just like the dot com bubble, useful companies with thrive and useless ones living off vc funding with die. I don't think Ai is like 3d tvs where it was everywhere and then no where. I have a feeling it's more like dot Com where there is so much over investment which will correct itself but won't go to 0.

[-] queermunist@lemmy.ml 4 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago)

If you've done an economics degree then surely you're familiar with Dutch disease? Usually this only happens in resource extraction, but data centers are a form of resource extraction by extracting value from our data so there are similarities. That's why the rest of the economy is already in recession, but the tech sector continues to boom. It's parasitic.

Which might mean, once the parasitic AI bubble bursts, funds will be reallocated back into the productive economy again.

Or not. Maybe it just blows up the last remaining part of the economy that's still functional and we enter another depression.

[-] Witchfire@lemmy.world 5 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago)

AI cannot and must not be allowed to replace human nature. That's the core of it. That's why capitalists and fascists loooove it. It can be used for medical/scientific research and advancement and a few other niche applications, but it should not replace the human element.

[-] Semi_Hemi_Demigod@lemmy.world -4 points 2 days ago

Totally. But if I had to pick between a machine and a human to watch Grafana and tell me when something’s weird I’d pick the machine.

And I don’t even like humans that much.

[-] Elilol@fedinsfw.app 4 points 2 days ago
[-] Semi_Hemi_Demigod@lemmy.world 6 points 2 days ago

That’s just human nature with extra steps

[-] Elilol@fedinsfw.app 1 points 2 days ago

xD i wouldve said fewer

[-] saltnotsugar@lemmy.world 24 points 2 days ago

I’m starting to see the chickens come home to roost for AI. Our CIO went all in on AI but couldn’t even get a simple complaint screening solution to work. At best it was 20% accurate. The whole thing got scrapped. People who used AI to make presentations in PPT ended up looking like clowns due to inaccurate data and weird graphics. AI hasn’t replaced a single job in our entire company.

[-] taiyang@lemmy.world 18 points 2 days ago

The other day I tried it for ideas to fix an issue I was having on a computer and in the end, it was common sense and an old message board post that saved the day. Fuck AI, I'm so tired of it making terrible suggestions.

[-] Furbag@pawb.social 13 points 2 days ago

Let's get those numbers up.

It's not too late to stop the machine. We just have to refuse to feed it.

[-] quick_snail@feddit.nl 11 points 2 days ago

Please cross post to /c/upliftingnews

[-] StopTech@lemmy.today 1 points 1 day ago

You are free to do so

And 99% have been or will be harmed by AI.

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