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[-] BigBrownDog@lemmy.world 74 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

When apes learned to sharpen sticks, every other animal was FUUUUUUUUUCKED. Those animals should try not to be so stupid though. Dogs and cats are smart. They joined our side.

[-] UnderpantsWeevil@lemmy.world 32 points 1 month ago

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Holocene_extinction

Going strong for over 30,000 years.

Dogs and cats are smart. They joined our side.

Dogs and cats are half the fucking problem.

[-] BigBrownDog@lemmy.world 12 points 1 month ago
[-] UnderpantsWeevil@lemmy.world 34 points 1 month ago

A recent study by the Smithsonian Institution and the US Fish and Wildlife Service estimated that domestic cats kill about 2.4 billion birds and 12.3 billion small mammals each year in the lower forty-eight states. This is far higher—and probably more accurate–than previous figures, and likely exceeds all other sources of human-related losses of these animals.

[-] BigBrownDog@lemmy.world 28 points 1 month ago

I'm not sure we are in the same conversation, brother. I said that cats benefited from befriending humanity. You seem to be posting statistics that argue in my favor.

[-] UnderpantsWeevil@lemmy.world 16 points 1 month ago

I said that cats benefited from befriending humanity

Absolutely. And I added that they're a primary agent by which humans propagate the Holocene Extinction.

Like, we wouldn't be nearly as successful at killing so many small mammals and insects if we weren't bringing domesticated cats with us all over the world.

[-] BigBrownDog@lemmy.world 5 points 1 month ago

I see what you're saying.

We didn't bring cats anywhere though, they came on their on volition. They do what they want. Dogs are just happy to be anywhere.

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[-] Kolanaki@pawb.social 38 points 1 month ago

"Try pointy stick."

"Me no want to."

gets stabbed by pointy stick

"Me now see value of pointy stick."

[-] Sir_Premiumhengst@lemmy.world 7 points 1 month ago

And my axe!

[-] DmMacniel@feddit.org 4 points 1 month ago

But that would be a stabby stick. A pointy stick is to point at stuff.

[-] osanna@lemmy.vg 3 points 1 month ago

What’s brown and sticky?

Tap for spoilerA stick!

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[-] Nurse_Robot@lemmy.world 33 points 1 month ago

Don't forget sharp stick! Sharp stick game changer

[-] Catoblepas@piefed.blahaj.zone 16 points 1 month ago

Can’t overlook banging rocks together to get a sharper rock. Big tech, invest now!

[-] massive_bereavement@fedia.io 7 points 1 month ago

It is funny how until the invention of ~~fire ants~~ firearms, almost always the best weapon was a pointy stick.

Then firearms happen and we learned to throw the stick very quickly.

[-] vaultdweller013@sh.itjust.works 6 points 1 month ago

Fire ants are also a viable biological weapon, knew a guy who had a nest of the things thrown at him. Poor bastard had to take an alcohol bath to get them all off.

[-] Catoblepas@piefed.blahaj.zone 5 points 1 month ago

At summer camp when I was like 8 a camper stood in a fire ant nest without realizing it and had bites ALL up and down her legs. I remember a couple of older kids hauling her to the counselors while she was just screaming, crying and unable to walk from the pain. Watch out for fire ant nests, they will fuck you up!

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[-] Not_mikey@lemmy.dbzer0.com 22 points 1 month ago

People think we won because of our big brains or fire use, no, it's cause we have the only halfway decent ranged ability in the game.

We broke the assumption that billions of years of evolution was built on, distance = safety.

[-] rockerface@lemmy.cafe 11 points 1 month ago

We basically collected the unstoppable exodia:

  • ranged damage
  • team ups
  • infinite stamina
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[-] someguy3@lemmy.world 20 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

I threw a pinecone at a bird that was picking at the siding. Seemed to break his brain to see something coming at him like that.

[-] GreenKnight23@lemmy.world 30 points 1 month ago

you: throws pinecone at mach 30

birb: is-is that a.... squints

birb: GAH! FUCK!!!

1000003641

[-] mavu@discuss.tchncs.de 17 points 1 month ago

I don't think that is actually the innovation that made us own the planet.
One human throwing rocks? Meh.
15-20 humans working together, some throwing rocks, others fetching new ones, or supplying the throwers? Jup. That would do it.

So, community and working together is what allowed us to win the crown.
We better not stop doing that..

[-] Agent641@lemmy.world 5 points 1 month ago

Communication, abstract planning, and being able to walk 100km without stopping is what really won it for us.

[-] Pyr_Pressure@lemmy.ca 5 points 1 month ago

There are lots of animals that have cooperative social groups and they don't rule the planet.

Very few can throw weapons.

[-] absentbird@lemmy.world 3 points 1 month ago

Yeah, there were studies done that found a human can't reliably throw a rock hard enough to kill even a rabbit from pretty close range. Rocks are blunt and usually only stun the target.

It was the fact that a dozen people all throwing rocks is an unassailable obstacle to any predator or prey. You can corner animals or ward them away. And if you think about it that's always been roughly how human wars have gone: masses of spears, slings, arrows, bolts, bullets, shells, missiles, etc. Our one big trick is a DDoS of violence.

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[-] Frenchgeek@lemmy.ml 17 points 1 month ago

Dexterity exploit speedrun.

[-] stupidcasey@lemmy.world 16 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

Am I a joke to you?

[-] basxto@discuss.tchncs.de 16 points 1 month ago

We won the arms race, we have literal arms

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[-] Hegar@fedia.io 13 points 1 month ago

"Saying a big hello to all you sentient lifeforms out there and for everyone else the secret is to bang the rocks together, guys!"

[-] Blue_Morpho@lemmy.world 13 points 1 month ago

We didn't even need to throw a rock. There's evidence that early man was a persistence hunter.

All other animals sprint. But man is the only animal that could jog them to death by jogging and never stopping until the animal collapses from exhaustion.

[-] ininewcrow@lemmy.ca 14 points 1 month ago

In addition to the ability to jog, run and walk during the hottest part of the day ... early humans could avoid most predators who were less capable of being active in the heat. The benefits of being a hairless sweaty upright ape.

[-] Evil_Shrubbery 3 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

Op skin (that does need some high tech maintenance in form of clothes, and other winter logistics/planning).

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[-] davidgro@lemmy.world 11 points 1 month ago

And not just throw rock, also run very long distance.

[-] Bwaz@lemmy.world 8 points 1 month ago

Monkeys can and do throw things that are much smellier than rocks.

[-] MrFinnbean@lemmy.world 17 points 1 month ago

Trivia time: Chimpanzees are the best primates after man at throwing.

At best they can throw things at the level of semi-athletic child.

Humans have unique rotating shoulder joint that just gives us a huge edge over any other species, when it comes to throwing things.

[-] Evil_Shrubbery 6 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

Yes, this, it's sapiens adaptation/specialisation, we take it for granted. Much like (related) stick use dexterity, which is another warfare advancement that should've gotten nerfed a few million years ago.

[-] atro_city@fedia.io 7 points 1 month ago

The white, African man learned to throw rocks. Yeah...

[-] Catoblepas@piefed.blahaj.zone 12 points 1 month ago

It’s a Neanderthal according to reverse image searches for the original illustration. There were light skinned Neanderthals in Europe, so it’s not an inaccurate illustration, just an inaccurate caption

[-] Evil_Shrubbery 5 points 1 month ago

Perhaps a bit inaccurate image use with that description as well.

[-] Catoblepas@piefed.blahaj.zone 4 points 1 month ago

Yeah, that’s what I was trying to say in terms of the caption being inaccurate

[-] Evil_Shrubbery 3 points 1 month ago

Oh, yes, that's clear actually, no idea why I thought I was adding to the convo, lol.

[-] Fedizen@lemmy.world 3 points 1 month ago

Also cuts his hair and beard

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[-] sepi@piefed.social 6 points 1 month ago

Then man learned to fly. Then man learned to drop suns from the sky.

[-] massive_bereavement@fedia.io 5 points 1 month ago

Sticks and stones may break my bones, but fucking fire was what broke my home.

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