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Let's hope it's actually true.

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[-] FireWire400@lemmy.world 5 points 17 hours ago* (last edited 17 hours ago)

Wow, a mysterious set of updates that'll fix everything, without any release date or explanation?

Yeah nah, it'll be great if it works out but something tells me it might just not. Taking on SteamOS.... Good luck with that.

[-] phoenixz@lemmy.ca 24 points 1 day ago

Who cares if it's true? Just ditch windows already

[-] AstralPath@lemmy.ca 9 points 22 hours ago

Exactly. Too fucking late.

I switched to Linux two years ago, never looked back and will never ever spend my own money on Microsoft products again. They violated my trust so I abandoned them.

[-] VeloRama@feddit.org 11 points 1 day ago

no more copilot: i'm the pilot now

[-] bstix@feddit.dk 79 points 1 day ago

the Start menu is getting a full rewrite in WinUI 3, which will make it 60% more responsive

Uh. I think I found the issue. A menu isn't even supposed to have various degrees of responsiveness.

[-] Jesus_666@lemmy.world 51 points 1 day ago

Yeah. 60% more responsive for something infamous for taking multiple seconds to launch is depressingly bad. That's "not even trying" levels of improvement.

The start menu should open essentially instantly (excluding optional animations) – 100 ms is good, 200 ms is somewhat adequate. They're aiming for somewhere between 400 and 1200 ms.

I hope for them that they underpromise and overdeliver because this does not inspire confidence.

[-] jjlinux@lemmy.zip 23 points 1 day ago

For a menu to take longer than 200ms is ridiculous. At 500ms of wait for my menu to show, the OS is getting nuked.

As for the 'inspire confidence',when was the last time MS inspired anything that was not disgust? Excluding the C-suite and some investors, of course.

[-] Jason2357@lemmy.ca 1 points 19 hours ago

I have seen my work laptop take upwards of 30 seconds to open the start menu. I want to crush it office-space style. 32g of ram and it apparently swaps the launcher!

[-] Jesus_666@lemmy.world 6 points 1 day ago

Some of the newer C# features are nice. Of course .Net is not handled by the same people who keep setting Windows on fire.

[-] Solaris1220@lemmy.world 84 points 1 day ago

Say what you want about Microsoft, but at the very least, it seems to know when it needs to change course.

That has to be sarcasm, right?

[-] frongt@lemmy.zip 10 points 1 day ago

It doesn't say that it actually does. Just knows.

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[-] homesweethomeMrL@lemmy.world 18 points 1 day ago

Did y’all miss this past week where they disabled their flagship egg-basket for 1.5 billion people on purpose?

Yeah they made Copilot chromium-browser only for about 5 days. On purpose. Or, the less charitable version is they just rolled out a bug that broke things for a massive amount of people, kept the news reports down, and waited a week before being convinced that was a Dumb As Fuck move.

Everyone has to learn this in their own ways but tech people always get there eventually: microsoft is, and always has been, awful.

It’s like learning HP printers are awful.

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[-] RamRabbit@lemmy.world 172 points 1 day ago

That's what they said a month ago, then they decided that 'remove copilot from notepad' meant 'rename copilot in notepad'.

[-] XLE@piefed.social 78 points 1 day ago

I remember reading that plan and being shocked about how good it sounded. And then they did the exact opposite of every single thing they promised, which I'm sure endeared themselves to all their enterprise customers.

So sure, I welcome Microsoft's attempts to finally drag itself back into relevancy, but they've got a massive self-inflicted foot wound that's gonna complicate matters.

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[-] FreddiesLantern@leminal.space 31 points 1 day ago

“Ok, ok, we hear you, no more copilot.

Meet: sidepilot.”

[-] imetators@lemmy.dbzer0.com 38 points 1 day ago

Valve: We just gonna release linux-based gaming miniPC.

The rest of the market:

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[-] ExLisper@lemmy.curiana.net 50 points 1 day ago

User: the updates keep breaking my system, I see AI and ads everywhere and stupid electron apps use all my RAM

MS execs: I know! Let's rewrite the start menu again!

[-] T156@lemmy.world 25 points 1 day ago

To be fair, using react for it was just an odd decision to begin with.

[-] kkj@lemmy.dbzer0.com 14 points 1 day ago

Yeah, React Native exists basically for the sole purpose of making things multiplatform easily. A menu that's specifically made for one operating system is only getting the downsides.

[-] adespoton@lemmy.ca 70 points 1 day ago

What ever happened to Windows 10 being the last OS you’d ever need?

[-] Railcar8095@lemmy.world 46 points 1 day ago

It is the last windows I needed.

[-] elvith@feddit.org 54 points 1 day ago

But it's true!

10 was the last one you needed. 11 and onwards is neither needed nor wanted. Also people are starting to realize the power of Linux (+Wine/Proton)

[-] sundray@lemmus.org 26 points 1 day ago

They couldn't cram as many ads as they wanted into it.

[-] macaw_dean_settle@lemmy.world 1 points 21 hours ago

Different management.

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[-] Aceticon@lemmy.dbzer0.com 16 points 1 day ago

Plot twist: They're gonna double down on vibe coding it.

[-] el_muerte@lemmy.ca 11 points 1 day ago

the sources claim that the Start menu is getting a full rewrite in WinUI 3, which will make it 60% more responsive

Oh good, that'll bring it all the way up to a third as responsive as the Windows 7 one was.

[-] ken@discuss.tchncs.de 7 points 1 day ago

Let's not forget that Win7 was almost 25% as responsive as Win2k3, which could even hold a candle to GNOME.

[-] Monument@piefed.world 35 points 1 day ago

For one, the sources claim that the Start menu is getting a full rewrite in WinUI 3, which will make it 60% more responsive and notably more customizable.

Customizable for whom?
Users? Advertisers?

[-] lost_faith@lemmy.ca 10 points 1 day ago

Windows users will be soon, for the first time ever, able to put the task bar on any edge of the screen, imagine that for customization.

[-] DisasterTransport@startrek.website 1 points 17 hours ago

you could do that in XP I'm pretty sure. Can you not do that in 11?

[-] lost_faith@lemmy.ca 2 points 12 hours ago

That's the joke, all you can do in 11 is move the icons to the left or leave em in the center. XP, 7, 10, all allowed task bar movement to any edge of screen

[-] Serious_Me@piefed.social 51 points 1 day ago

Aww, and I finally just moved over to Linux.

[-] zikzak025@lemmy.world 47 points 1 day ago

If you're happy on Linux, stay on Linux. This is Microsoft's "I can change baby, I swear" play. Just like they did after Windows 8. And Windows Vista. And Windows ME.

Surely they have learned their lessons and will never intentionally tank their product in the name of profit again. Surely this time.

[-] prole@lemmy.blahaj.zone 11 points 1 day ago

Aww

More like "aww yeah"

[-] CeeBee_Eh@lemmy.world 8 points 1 day ago

Just stay on Linux. Microslop won't actually fix anything.

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[-] jobbies@lemmy.zip 27 points 1 day ago

So Windows 11 Service Pack 2? Or just win11.1?

I think they should call it 'The Windows 11 Apology Tour'.

How MS is a still a thing and still turns a profit is beyond me.

Vendor lock in and government bribery.

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[-] Bullerfar@lemmy.world 22 points 1 day ago

The nail in the coffin for me was, when I got an add for some copilot course shit, on Microsoft teams, (this was on my work pc btw) with notifications ringing everywhere btw, on a fucking business account (I am using Linux at my household, not fucking microslop). That was IT for me. How they have the audacity to do so, is beyond me.

[-] NekoKoneko@lemmy.world 19 points 1 day ago

They figure once they have a captive audience, anything short of killing the hostage is fair game.

[-] Meron35@lemmy.world 9 points 1 day ago

Actually, it seems that even killing the hostage is fair game.

Microsoft Copilot Tells User Suicide Is an Option - https://futurism.com/the-byte/microsoft-copilot-user-suicide

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[-] DishaweslemOride@lemmy.org 25 points 1 day ago

Maybe this time my abusive spouse won’t beat me. I just need to go home. They’ve changed. They promise.

[-] MonkderVierte@lemmy.zip 9 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

No, it's not Windows fault. Microsoft has problems, needs to be fixed.

[-] chunes@lemmy.world 3 points 1 day ago

ffs, all I'm hearing is that they plan to fuck with it a lot in upcoming months, which can only be bad news

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