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[–] 192 points 5 months ago (9 children)

That's what they said a month ago, then they decided that 'remove copilot from notepad' meant 'rename copilot in notepad'.

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  • [–] 85 points 5 months ago (8 children)

    I remember reading that plan and being shocked about how good it sounded. And then they did the exact opposite of every single thing they promised, which I'm sure endeared themselves to all their enterprise customers.

    So sure, I welcome Microsoft's attempts to finally drag itself back into relevancy, but they've got a massive self-inflicted foot wound that's gonna complicate matters.

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  • [–] 17 points 5 months ago (5 children)

    Well, when Microsoft finally admits they're wrong they usually backtrack well enough. Think windows 8/8.1

    It was still an ugly pig with lipstick but the worst parts like the start screen were gone.

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  • [–] 95 points 5 months ago (4 children)

    Say what you want about Microsoft, but at the very least, it seems to know when it needs to change course.

    That has to be sarcasm, right?

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    [–] 88 points 5 months ago (6 children)

    the Start menu is getting a full rewrite in WinUI 3, which will make it 60% more responsive

    Uh. I think I found the issue. A menu isn't even supposed to have various degrees of responsiveness.

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  • [–] 57 points 5 months ago (4 children)

    Yeah. 60% more responsive for something infamous for taking multiple seconds to launch is depressingly bad. That's "not even trying" levels of improvement.

    The start menu should open essentially instantly (excluding optional animations) – 100 ms is good, 200 ms is somewhat adequate. They're aiming for somewhere between 400 and 1200 ms.

    I hope for them that they underpromise and overdeliver because this does not inspire confidence.

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  • [–] 24 points 5 months ago (3 children)

    For a menu to take longer than 200ms is ridiculous. At 500ms of wait for my menu to show, the OS is getting nuked.

    As for the 'inspire confidence',when was the last time MS inspired anything that was not disgust? Excluding the C-suite and some investors, of course.

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    [–] 80 points 5 months ago (9 children)

    What ever happened to Windows 10 being the last OS you’d ever need?

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    [–] 59 points 5 months ago (5 children)

    Aww, and I finally just moved over to Linux.

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  • [–] 51 points 5 months ago

    If you're happy on Linux, stay on Linux. This is Microsoft's "I can change baby, I swear" play. Just like they did after Windows 8. And Windows Vista. And Windows ME.

    Surely they have learned their lessons and will never intentionally tank their product in the name of profit again. Surely this time.

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  • [–] 10 points 5 months ago*

    Lol. Me too. I mean, I've been running primarily Linux for decades, now this single press release will have me watching for Windows 13 with interest. (This is hopefully obviously sarcasm - meant only to give you a laugh and maybe help you feel chill about whatever you do for your next OS.)

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  • [–] 57 points 5 months ago (2 children)

    User: the updates keep breaking my system, I see AI and ads everywhere and stupid electron apps use all my RAM

    MS execs: I know! Let's rewrite the start menu again!

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  • [–] 44 points 5 months ago (3 children)

    Valve: We just gonna release linux-based gaming miniPC.

    The rest of the market:

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  • [–] 38 points 5 months ago (3 children)

    For one, the sources claim that the Start menu is getting a full rewrite in WinUI 3, which will make it 60% more responsive and notably more customizable.

    Customizable for whom?
    Users? Advertisers?

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  • [–] 36 points 5 months ago

    “Ok, ok, we hear you, no more copilot.

    Meet: sidepilot.”

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  • [–] 31 points 5 months ago (1 child)

    Who cares if it's true? Just ditch windows already

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  • [–] 10 points 5 months ago

    Exactly. Too fucking late.

    I switched to Linux two years ago, never looked back and will never ever spend my own money on Microsoft products again. They violated my trust so I abandoned them.

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  • [–] 30 points 5 months ago

    Maybe this time my abusive spouse won’t beat me. I just need to go home. They’ve changed. They promise.

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  • [–] 28 points 5 months ago (2 children)

    So Windows 11 Service Pack 2? Or just win11.1?

    I think they should call it 'The Windows 11 Apology Tour'.

    How MS is a still a thing and still turns a profit is beyond me.

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    [–] 24 points 5 months ago (4 children)

    Did y’all miss this past week where they disabled their flagship egg-basket for 1.5 billion people on purpose?

    Yeah they made Copilot chromium-browser only for about 5 days. On purpose. Or, the less charitable version is they just rolled out a bug that broke things for a massive amount of people, kept the news reports down, and waited a week before being convinced that was a Dumb As Fuck move.

    Everyone has to learn this in their own ways but tech people always get there eventually: microsoft is, and always has been, awful.

    It’s like learning HP printers are awful.

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    [–] 22 points 5 months ago (3 children)

    The nail in the coffin for me was, when I got an add for some copilot course shit, on Microsoft teams, (this was on my work pc btw) with notifications ringing everywhere btw, on a fucking business account (I am using Linux at my household, not fucking microslop). That was IT for me. How they have the audacity to do so, is beyond me.

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  • [–] 21 points 5 months ago (2 children)

    They figure once they have a captive audience, anything short of killing the hostage is fair game.

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  • [–] 18 points 5 months ago

    Plot twist: They're gonna double down on vibe coding it.

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  • [–] 15 points 5 months ago (1 child)

    the sources claim that the Start menu is getting a full rewrite in WinUI 3, which will make it 60% more responsive

    Oh good, that'll bring it all the way up to a third as responsive as the Windows 7 one was.

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    It's real this time, like really, they meant it this time... Finally!

    ...

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  • [–] 12 points 5 months ago

    no more copilot: i'm the pilot now

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  • [–] 11 points 5 months ago (4 children)

    They could put a built-in linux installer

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    [–] 9 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago)

    No, it's not Windows fault. Microsoft has problems, needs to be fixed.

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