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[-] corsicanguppy@lemmy.ca 23 points 2 months ago

#bothSides and people trying to avoid understanding

  • in effectively a binary race, the conservatives win when turnout is lower. Take a bow.
  • if you don't vote for the better option, you're begging for the worst. Self-high-5.
  • voting for a can't win third-party is like spoiling a vote but less fun at parties. Dip a chip.
[-] thethrilloftime69@feddit.online -5 points 2 months ago

Why is it the voters fault when the party does nothing to inspire confidence or enthusiasm?

[-] NotASharkInAManSuit@lemmy.world 21 points 2 months ago

Because the other option was Hitler.

[-] DarkFuture@lemmy.world 8 points 2 months ago

Because voters are fucking adults and it's their responsibility to make the best decision under the circumstances they find themselves so their quality of life doesn't degenerate even more.

No one inspired you? Too fucking bad. Look at the facts. Make the most intelligent decision.

[-] Jakeroxs@sh.itjust.works 0 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago)

The facts are voting for the lesser of two evils is how we got to this point.

Edit: Before you assume, yes I voted for biden and Harris in 2020 and 2024.

[-] thethrilloftime69@feddit.online -2 points 2 months ago

I think if you have any long term vision, the best solution is revolution. There was no choice available in which things get better. The only choice is how fast do you want things to get worse.

[-] GoofSchmoofer@lemmy.world 4 points 2 months ago

Things would get pretty bad during and after a revolution as well.

If the authoritarians win - shit gets 100x worse for everyone "for the sake of security"

If the revolutionaries win there is a good chance those that become the new head of state aren't going to be much better and/or now that it's been proven that revolutions can change governments whose to say that another one doesn't break out because the new government isn't doing stuff "right". This becomes a bloody spiral with no real end.

Saying we need to revolt without really looking at the long term consequences of that action is foolish.

[-] resipsaloquitur@lemmy.world 20 points 2 months ago

Big “Don’t blame me, I voted for Kodos!” energy.

[-] sharkfucker420@lemmy.ml 15 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago)

There is not a single politician that is capable of stopping the decline of the America. The exact character of that decline is alterable but the violence and destitution is not. This is how empires die.

Stop blaming other working class people and start destroying the system that made this all inevitable. Continuing to fight amongst ourselves over the details of a problem instead of the problem itself is counter productive.

[-] vzqq@lemmy.blahaj.zone 17 points 2 months ago

I mean yes, but also very much no.

The decline of the Roman Empire, from Trajanus Maximus to the fall of Rome, took more than 300 years.

The British empire peaked in the 1920s and has been managing its decline somewhat gracefully since then.

But leave it to the Americans to just throw everything into the woodchipper yelling “FUCK YOU LOSERS WE’RE STILL NUMBER ONE” all the way down.

[-] sharkfucker420@lemmy.ml 2 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago)

It can take a long time like Rome or it could be short like the third reich. It will be violent though. The "graceful" British decline hasn't been anywhere close to peaceful. I think the best explanation for this relatively low magnitude of violence is that the British empire never died, it just lost rank. It was supplanted. It still benefits heavily from imperialism, just in a different form and to a lesser degree. The Suez Canal crisis is a great case study on how the British empire came to understand its lost of supremacy and accept its new place in the world hierarchy.

The big difference with America (and the collective Western imperial system) is that should China succeed in dominating the world economic hierarchy, it could be the end of that hierarchy. At least that's what capitalist leaders are currently thinking will happen. I believe this decline has to be violent because it is the last flail of a system that knows it is dying rather than a country accepting second best. They think if China wins the jig is up basically.

[-] ILoveUnions@lemmy.world 10 points 2 months ago

Correct. There is not a single politician that is capable of it. The nature of democracy is that any change requires movement and many supporters.

[-] sharkfucker420@lemmy.ml 7 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago)

Let me rephrase. Politicans do not have the power to prevent the economic decline of an empire losing its hegemonic power as a result of the contradictions within its system of production. But I think you know what I meant.

[-] inari@piefed.zip 15 points 2 months ago

It really sucks that modern center-left parties position themselves as "well, there's worse"

[-] DarkFuture@lemmy.world 4 points 2 months ago

Well, there is.

[-] Iceman@lemmy.world 15 points 2 months ago

It's the folks we made apathetic's fault! Now watch us run on trump 1 policies to trinagulate the conservative vote again. We'll even have Steve Bannon on stage this time! You have to vote for us. Don't you dare despair!

[-] tlekiteki@lemmy.dbzer0.com 9 points 2 months ago

Is this an adaptation of Cormac McCarthyz 'The Road'?

[-] SatansMaggotyCumFart@piefed.world 6 points 2 months ago

Yes but it’s not as good as the book.

[-] Schmuppes@lemmy.today 4 points 2 months ago

But it's got Viggo.

[-] DarkFuture@lemmy.world 8 points 2 months ago

Non-voters should be on the front lines.

After they write an apology letter to all the people that died to give them a democracy and visit their graves to deliver the letters.

[-] OpenPassageways@lemmy.zip 2 points 2 months ago

Hard agree. If you're not voting at all you're basically saying "do whatever you want to me government daddy, no matter what you do I support you!".

At the very least, you should be registering a protest vote with a third party so that your protest is recorded.

I don't agree with this whole idea that Nader gave the election to Bush. Nader said he would have dropped out if Gore had adopted certain things into his platform.

[-] JigglySackles@lemmy.world 1 points 1 month ago

One of the few things they can do that has any measurable effect on outcomes and they decided, "nah, fuck all that."

[-] EmptyAsparagus@piefed.social 8 points 2 months ago

the vote is the only say you get. letting that go unused is just opting out. democracy only lives through participation.

[-] zbyte64@awful.systems 6 points 2 months ago

While I agree in not surrendering any power through inaction, voting is not the only say you get. There's 100 other things one could do as well that could make things less shitty.

[-] MyVeryRealName@lemmy.world 2 points 2 months ago

Voting is the easiest way to bring political change or preserve things you like about society.

[-] infinitesunrise@slrpnk.net 1 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

the vote is the only say you get.

bless your heart

[-] Jankatarch@lemmy.world 6 points 2 months ago

I didn't vote because I was physically not allowed to. I am still kinda sympathethic after 6th trolley problem in a row people stop playing the game.

[-] Ferrous@lemmy.ml -3 points 2 months ago
[-] YiddishMcSquidish@lemmy.today 32 points 2 months ago

But one can be extremely worse.

[-] daychilde@lemmy.world 24 points 2 months ago

And when one of those bad things is much much worse, it's an easy choice to pick the one that is less bad.

[-] DarkFuture@lemmy.world 3 points 2 months ago

it’s an easy choice to pick the one that is less bad

Tell that to millions of braindead Americans.

[-] daychilde@lemmy.world 1 points 2 months ago

What do you think I've been doing?

[-] lennybird@lemmy.world 13 points 2 months ago

Always a tankie from Lemmy.ml with a curious predisposition to defending Russia and China who espoused both sides false equivalence fallacies. How curious.

[-] vzqq@lemmy.blahaj.zone 8 points 2 months ago

To be fair, they pretty much built this place. They were here before the whole Reddit thing, and they stuck around. Most normies just up and left.

I don’t particularly want to talk about the evils of capitalism in every thread. It’s really really bad, but I have diverse interests, and have some form of object permanence, it’s ok to talk about something else once in a while. But that’s the only content that gets any engagement here because we left and they stayed.

So chalk another one for the old small-d democratic notion of “decisions are made by those who show up”. This is the “get lectured by Tankies” social media network now.

[-] Aqarius@lemmy.world -1 points 2 months ago

Yknow, now that you say it, it does kinda make sense that the people simping for pro-Israel politicians would essentially barge into a space someone else built, decide it's theirs now, and try and kick out the people who were here first.

[-] vzqq@lemmy.blahaj.zone 7 points 2 months ago

The problem with this place is that I can’t tell whether you’re serious or not.

[-] YiddishMcSquidish@lemmy.today -1 points 2 months ago

Real talk. Don't judge them based on their instance though.

There are some very smart(if not misguided) users in .ml

[-] 14th_cylon@lemmy.zip 4 points 2 months ago

suuure... also don't judge nazis just based on the nazi uniform, there are some smart, if not misguided, nazis!

[-] YiddishMcSquidish@lemmy.today 9 points 2 months ago

Not trying to argue, but some user taught me to not be judgemental.

I hope to pass it on.

[-] 14th_cylon@lemmy.zip 6 points 2 months ago

i think that sometimes you have to be judgemental... otherwise the person in the nazi uniform might think that that uniform is tolerated by others. it is clear that the judgement itself doesn't fix the problem, but you can't be tolerant to everything.

[-] Instigate@aussie.zone 5 points 2 months ago
[-] NotASharkInAManSuit@lemmy.world 3 points 2 months ago

It’s a contract, not a paradox. If you opt out you are no longer covered by the terms of the contract.

[-] YiddishMcSquidish@lemmy.today 1 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago)

Strong argument.

But there are Nazi voters who are genuinely good people otherwise. Yes they are ignorant.

I was going to try and defend them more, but I'm over it. I ain't going to Thanksgiving this year.

[-] 14th_cylon@lemmy.zip 1 points 2 months ago

if you are nazi voter, you are not good person, that is not how being good person works.

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