The fact it's still at 29% is mind boggling to me. How delusional or racist/pedophilical do you have to be to approve of this guy?
there are a LOT of severely uneducated inbred racist bigots in this country. pretty much anywhere in the south, or any isolated rural area anywhere--that's what it is
Based on my interactions, I think the delusional/pedophilic demographic is far outweighed by those who are simply deeply ignorant (no comment on racism).
It's not that they're ignoring the evidence about him, or even support him in spite of it (though that definitely happens too). They live in a bubble where they just never see any negative news about him. Their news sources either ignore those stories entirely, or spin them beyond all recognition. Whenever something negative gets too big, they're told it's fake news, or that the Democrats are doing it even worse.
This. They're told, e.g., that the Epstein stuff is all a smear campaign by Democrats. And they believe it because it's hammered into them and because of tribalism.
If my father believed Trump was involved with Epstein and the raping of children, he'd never have voted for Trump. But instead he's convinced that Trump is God-appointed to save America from those evil Democrats who want to corrupt kids with trans ideology. He's stuck in an algorithmically-secured propaganda bubble.
My in-laws are these kind of people. They voted for a lot of politicians, local and federal, because their church told them to because these politicians didn't support abortion. That's all they needed, no other policy or information required. If they questioned it they'd get ostracized from their church circle, so why bother.
If we chatted about these politicians. Typically they were not aware of the deeper topics and would genuinely be disturbed by them, but their responses always went back to, well I just can't vote for X they are pro-abortion and the church doesn't support that.
They need someone to tell them what to do and they cling to these groups because they have never been self sufficient.
You just described basically my mom's entire family.
Nothing like an imaginary problem/thought exercise used to manipulate voters. Think of the unborn babies! Of course, ignore all the actual living babies. God these people are so fucking stupid.
I was reading last night about the reversal of the EPA ruling on C02. They were using propaganda like the "religion of climate change".
That got my wheels spinning! Wait a minute. If it is a "religion" then don't you have to respect it!?
Truth is that could give a shit about your Magical Sky Daddy beliefs, they only care if it serves their purpose.
It's mind boggling to me for a different reason, he has always had his cult locked in where he never dropped below 30something% no matter what he did. The fact that he actually lost some of the die hard "I'd forgive him for raping my daughter" croud is kinda wild.
A lot of that crowd is elderly. Even if none of them change their opinion, he's still going to be losing them over time.
My grandma voted for Trump in 2024 ... by mail, from her hospice bed.
Hopefully, she won't be voting in 2026 or 2028. (Though I wouldn't put it past my family to cast another mail-in ballot for her 'because it's what she would have wanted'.)
29% is insanely low considering how much propaganda they spew and how much media they control.
I try to be "optimistic" because Trump is only going to make things worse, so even lower numbers are possible.
Even Truman was barely lower than this, though his were low because dipshit Americans fellated MacArthur who was a Trump-like figure in many ways. Fake bravado (he abandoned his troops in the Philippines when things got tough), shit talker who spewed bloodthirsty talking points (he wanted to drop 50 nukes on China during the Korean War), but wore cool shades and smoked a pipe, etc
Maga simply represents the shallow, indulgent narcissism at the root of American identity, especially in the shithole South. We've been like this for a long fucking time.
Even post-Watergate Nixon had 25%. I think no matter what he does it isn't going to drop below that, there's a subset of the population that simply won't adjust their opinion on of him.
Keep in mind a lot of people simply aren't paying attention and a lot of people have made MAGA a core part of their personality; to turn on it now would mean admitting that all their social media posts, financial contributions, merch, and ruined relationships were in vain. It's massively humiliating to admit to yourself and others that you were that overconfidantly wrong to hitch your wagon to a known conman rapist.
I've found that in every US political poll, the absolute worst of the worst topic or candidate will almost always have 25-30% support. I really think a quarter of people are complete assholes who lack empathy and care for no one but themselves.
It's the crazification factor.
Here's the original post about it.
Just like how if we stop testing for COVID we'd have very few cases.
Or firing the jobs agency statistician because the numbers were so bad...
And our whole governmental apparatus is dedicated to propping up a brain-dead, geriatric asshole's ego so people in power can steal more from us with zero accountability.
Which would be bad, but it gets worse, because propping up brain-dead geriatrics is a bipartisan effort now.
Don't forget, "Stop counting the votes".
Just another company gargling Trump's mushroom-shaped member. America is so fucking embarrassing. Now I know how Russians feel.
It's too small to measure, just like his...
It's genuinely insane how many people here really think it fell to 29%…
Gallup's last poll had it at 36%, and compared to prior and other surveys, that's already rather an outlier:
(And yes, I know Nate Silver isn't great, but that doesn't mean that the data is collected and accumulated in a good way.)
I love how his approval rating is above water until he actually starts governing. I need to sell snake oil to this country, because I could become filthy (emphasis on filthy) rich.
I am not saying its not politically related but its worth adding the context they provided: "Gallup said the ratings are now "widely produced, aggregated and interpreted, and no longer represent an area where Gallup can make its most distinctive contribution."
Generally gallup has good methodology so I am not sure their reason is sound but im also not fully sure its because of Trump
He broke the scale and they can't afford a new one because of tariffs.
They want to stop measuring now so they can have time to rework some of their code.
No one ever thought they might need to use single digit numbers.
So who owns Gallup, that’s making them do this?
Gallup is an employee-owned corporation. i'm not sure where the funding for their presidential approval polling comes from
employee-owned
is such a euphemism, in my opinion. Law firms are often "employee-owned".
It has internal shareholders, they're not a co-op, and should be viewed like any other for profit business.
Totally. That's way I tried to make sure to say corporation
Oh yeah, no issue with how you've used it. I'm just publically grumbling about the term's existence haha
nah yeah totally got that. just wanted to make sure anyone coming accross this knew to recognize it in the future as not being the same. i realized with your comment that a little bit of my intention was lost
Me either, but I'm sure that famously litigious Trump didn't threaten to sue them if they continued posting bad numbers like he's threatened anyone who hurt his feelings.
Haha yeah, im sure they built it to track dogs... :)
Here's what that data looked like:
https://news.gallup.com/interactives/507569/presidential-job-approval-center.aspx
Dubya's plot arc is WILD.
I remember when dubya was in charge it was a global meme how stupid he was. I heard some clip of a speech he made a while back and god damn did he sound coherent and respectable compared to what we have today.
The bar has lowered so much its unbelievable.
American unity was very, very high after 9/11.
It is sort of respectable, they did not fix the numbers instead.
Is it actually 29%?
Not that I've seen. On some issues, he's down a lot, but overall has him in the 37-42 range. Which is about 50 too high
There's a solid core that will never abandon him, and a squishy shell that could, but only consumes right wing propaganda
Working in hospice, I regularly come across patients/family members who actively seem to avoid anything that could potentially challenge their beliefs.
Step one, vote orange because R. Step two, remove anyone or anything from your life that makes you uncomfortable or requires reflection. Step three, exist comfortably with your head in the sand while the rest of the world burns.
He doesn't think he's leaving office, so why would he need an approval rating?
With a mortar launcher
and he would have got away with it if it wasn't for you meddling kids....
Will Gallup do an approval poll for a scooby snack?
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