It's me! I'm the propaganda! How dare I read the code and tell you all about it.
reality is a hexbear smear campaign
Nice try, but I have already depicted you as the snarling Hexbear tankie, and myself as the enlightened lemmy.world contributor
Woah, it's an honor to meet you mr. propaganda, I've heard so much about you!
how dare you only post snippets of the code when there's so much of it!
Yoooooo thank you Slrpnk for this thread because I totally missed that earlier thread criticising parts of Piefed's code and OMFG it's bad and full of shit that is the dev's personal feelings deliberately hidden and it deliberately gives misleading errors to prevent you discovering what it's actually doing.
If a dev is deliberately obfuscating their errors to hide what their fucking service is actually doing you should run the fuck away. That is not a good or honest dev.
Like, I wouldn't have used it to begin with but having your code do one thing and then telling the user it's doing something else screams malicious developer.
EDIT:
As Edie mentioned, if someone has a user blocked, and that user replies to someone, their comment is dropped:
if parent_comment.author.has_blocked_user(user.id) or parent_comment.author.has_blocked_instance(user.instance_id):
log_incoming_ap(id, APLOG_CREATE, APLOG_FAILURE, saved_json, 'Parent comment author blocked replier')
return NoneFor Example:
Cowbees comment on lemmy.ml: https://lemmy.ml/post/41587312/23288779
Non-existent on piefed.social: https://piefed.social/comment/9647830
(see Edies original comment here)
This enables deeply deeply malicious behaviour not to mention being malicious in its own right. One blocked user is blocking ALL users. You could make an account on piefed, block the entire fediverse, and Piefed will then drop all of it lmao.
The ideological purpose of this that the dev has is so that the invested people who actually take time to learn this (anticommunists) can block any leftists across the fediverse and function as a secret and hidden element of blocking left wing content.
Deeply malicious developer is an understatement.
If you're an anarchist or a socdem or a whatever don't think this doesn't apply to you and that it will only be used against communists, anyone even vaguely leftwing will be blocked by people who know this function exists and all of your shit will never appear there. It is a platform that will make the left completely invisible if you do not exist directly on it. But you better bet that if you exist on it and say the wrong thing that's slightly further left than what they approve of they'll come down on you too.
The fact that censorship of that sort is even there in the first place is the problem. If you wanted people to be able to modify the software like that it should be separated from either the main code base or even just in a different namespace.
Now I will say Rimu is good at what they do. I had an issue where I couldn't load my main feed and there was nothing I could do client side. They had it fixed within 2 hours of me raising an issue on codeberg. That was great. But their skill isn't the issue. Its them choosing to inject their opinions in a social media software that has the effect of controlling what everyone using it sees that is the issue.
Sorry for preaching to the choir. Its just after interacting with hexbear quite a bit, I don't see the bad wrap unless someone is misunderstanding what "death to america" means.
Regarding people misunderstanding Hexbear, I'd argue its deliberate. Not that they are aware, even, but that they choose to never interpret anything we say charitably, because doing so results in uncomfortable realizations. I highly recommend everyone read Masses, Elites, and Rebels: The Theory of "Brainwashing" as we are all guilty of this, to greater or lesser degrees.
I imagine this sequence of events happens a lot:
-see a post saying hexbear wants to execute all infants for being reactionary or something
-go to hexbear
-it's all pissing owls
Write shit code.
Gets called out.
IT'S A SMEAR CAMPAIGN.
for fuck's sake
We don't engage in any "campaigns"
What is with lemmy instances and their insisting that we do this?
I’ve seen people trying to organize campaigns on Hexbear before. It’s like herding cats.
I didn't know what piefed was, so I took a peek at a repository
A Lemmy/Mbin alternative written in Python with Flask. Clean, simple code that is easy to understand and contribute to. No fancy design patterns or algorithms.
That's all I need to see to know to never touch that software.
No fancy design patterns or algorithms.
This is like when liberals insist that an assessment is "unbiased" or "non-ideological". It's impossible. What they mean by "no design pattern" is "no design patterns I don't like".
Man software is hard. They're always saying stuff like "Lberry is a branch of the Fortnitely bootlickLoader made for asynchronous thread calls on the VersTop backend".
And then I open a plugin up and see completely uncommented code like
If x.getParent(struct.key(2).getIsPresent("present")) = 3.rad(y):
buttLoader.load(buttSettings.buttSetting(new butt))
Else:
x.setIsTrueIfFalse(true)
And their newest git update is how they're excited to be moving to Android while their documentation is 20% complete and their newest feature I actually like is a pull request from some 17 year-old in Nebraska using legacy code to do something in 3 lines I spent 10 hours figuring out how to make but better.
(And yes, the first if statement is an assignment because obviously someone modifying the code knows that the get method of x also assesses 3 arbitrary attributes and returns a bool)
No fancy design patterns or algorithms
Is such a red flag TBH, depending on how it's meant
Clean, simple code that is easy to understand and contribute to.
Given how ad-hoc the snippets of codes RedWizard and others have posted, I strongly suspect Pifed's code to be a horrible spaghetti mess.
Why is being mad about Rust so often correlated with reactionary opinions?
Rust excited a lot of younger developers because it lacked decades of tech debt and has safety features built into the language. Those younger developers leaned more progressive, many of them being trans, and there are relatively fewer Rust communities full of bigots.
So it's a combination of multiple things, I think. The first being an unwillingness of older and more conservative developers to give in to the new technology that is coming for their favorite crusty old tools. The enthusiasm of the younger crowd wanting to use Rust in any and all cases, sometimes where it doesn't really make sense, greatly annoys them.
The second is the obvious support of the overall Rust community for groups of people they don't like.
And the last, also relevant here, is a difference of opinion on "Use Rust and do something right the first time, but (sometimes a lot) slower" vs. "Use Python or Java and do things (a lot) quicker, but relatively less efficiently".
There are legitimate criticisms of Rust (bundling, substantial difficulty in dynamic linking), but those criticisms are not coming across the fence from Python land.
well commented
must have been reading a different piefed repo than I was
The 1984-style gif filter function that fails to parse for markdown that would be necessary for the links to appear as gifs is hilarious
Holy fucking shit lmao. I am actually speechless.
extremely detailed, sourced comment detailing various problems with piefed
That intentionally leave out most of the picture. This is how propaganda works; not by lying but by spreading selective truths.
The Piefed dev has by the way also responded to these allegations: https://slrpnk.net/post/33525301/20457257
That said, I do think some of these optional features are somewhat misguided. However, in the past the main Piefed dev has had an open ear to such concerns and did end up removing several half-baked features again when people explained why those seemed like bad ideas.
That intentionally leave out most of the picture. This is how propaganda works; not by lying but by spreading selective truths.
Damn, first time I've seen this in the wild, the US alphabet agencies have been pushing this idea of "Malinformation" that is, correct information but told in the wrong way(i.e. making them look bad) since Trump's first term I believe. Guess it has taken to time to really sink into the liberal arsenal of thought terminating cliches.
Slop.
For posting all the anonymous reactionary bullshit that you can't post anywhere else.
Rule 1: All posts must include links to the subject matter, and no identifying information should be redacted.
Rule 2: If your source is a reactionary website, please use archive.is instead of linking directly.
Rule 3: No sectarianism.
Rule 4: TERF/SWERFs Not Welcome
Rule 5: No bigotry of any kind, including ironic bigotry.
Rule 6: Do not post fellow hexbears.
Rule 7: Do not individually target federated instances' admins or moderators.
