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Sources on the fighting in Palestine against Israel. In general, CW for footage of battles, explosions, dead people, and so on:

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https://t.me/patricklancasternewstoday ~ Patrick Lancaster's telegram channel.

https://t.me/gonzowarr ~ A big Russian commentator.

https://t.me/rybar ~ One of, if not the, biggest Russian telegram channels focussing on the war out there. Actually quite balanced, maybe even pessimistic about Russia. Produces interesting and useful maps.

https://t.me/epoddubny ~ Russian language.

https://t.me/boris_rozhin ~ Russian language.

https://t.me/mod_russia_en ~ Russian Ministry of Defense. Does daily, if rather bland updates on the number of Ukrainians killed, etc. The figures appear to be approximately accurate; if you want, reduce all numbers by 25% as a 'propaganda tax', if you don't believe them. Does not cover everything, for obvious reasons, and virtually never details Russian losses.

https://t.me/UkraineHumanRightsAbuses ~ Pro-Russian, documents abuses that Ukraine commits.

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Almost every Western media outlet.

https://discord.gg/projectowl ~ Pro-Ukrainian OSINT Discord.

https://t.me/ice_inii ~ Alleged Ukrainian account with a rather cynical take on the entire thing.


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[–] [email protected] 37 points 2 years ago

SVT (Swedish broadcasting agency) doing their darndest to be "neutral" about the AI generated dead baby pictures by eqvivocating the Israeli state spreading them and a picture that showed up in an Egyptian protest.

[–] [email protected] 37 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (3 children)

Also a piece by our boy Bhadrakumar over the weekend: Biden gives booster dose to the faltering Ukraine war. He comes down rather pessimistically on the Ukraine War for Russia. He says that the war in Israel has essentially injected new life into the "democracy vs autocracy" conflict, with Biden pretty explicitly saying that both Russia and Hamas are threats to democracy and thus in some way part of the same axis. Poland's electoral changes do not herald any changes in their support for Ukraine, and Sunak eventually losing to Starmer in the UK also will change nothing.

Essentially, he says that the post-counteroffensive wobbling has been mitigated, and everybody continues to be all-in for the war, including large amounts of funding to keep the Ukrainian economy going. He says that the advantage that ATACMS gives Ukraine is meaningful, and so too might be the supply of Gripen planes, which can operate from narrower, shorter runways including highways, thus meaning that airbases need not be used. The United States has said that the White House is still going to deliver new and increasingly advanced weapons systems in the coming months (which are still under production).

Who can say now that what happens in Ukraine, which is 10000 kms away, does not concern the United States? Biden began his speech on Thursday on a Churchillian note: “We’re facing an inflection point in history — one of those moments where the decisions we make today are going to determine the future for decades to come. That’s what I’d like to talk with you about tonight.”

He went on to say, “American leadership is what holds the world together. American alliances are what keep us, America, safe. American values are what make us a partner that other nations want to work with. To put all that at risk if we walk away from Ukraine, if we turn our backs on Israel, it’s just not worth it.”

So, Ukraine war is no longer about the Westphalian principle of national sovereignty and the UN Charter — or even about this being not an era of wars. It is actually about American leadership, American alliances, American values — plainly put, hegemony, NATO, exceptionalism.


Personally, I think this is much too pessimistic and if Israel is caught in a long hot war and the US is forced to supply large amounts of weapons to Israel and the US military bases in the Middle East then Ukraine will naturally receive less stuff, but nonetheless it appears that Ukraine's economy will not be the factor that causes the eventual collapse, due to all the funding. It'll be either the equipment running dry, or the lack of trained men. Given Russia's ability to adapt to new weapons systems used against them, I also think that the ATACMS will eventually be mitigated, as will whatever planes the West sends - the Russian military only continues to grow in power as best as I can see. Regardless of what happens, looks like the war is definitely still on for 2024 - any chance that the US might walk away with its tail between its legs and do the classic move of abandoning its ally as it loses, that possibility has been squashed for now.

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[–] [email protected] 37 points 2 years ago

Article on how Palestinian militants use the mass line without calling it the mass line: https://www.newarab.com/opinion/udai-tamimi-lions-den-and-popular-cradle-palestine

[–] [email protected] 37 points 2 years ago (2 children)
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[–] [email protected] 37 points 2 years ago

elon gets a cookie before he gets thrown in the flaming pit

[–] [email protected] 37 points 2 years ago (9 children)

Current assessment of the US Navy force in the Middle East

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[–] [email protected] 37 points 2 years ago

https://streamable.com/3qoolq

🇵🇸🇵🇸❌🇮🇱 — On October 23, 2023, Martyr Abu Ali Mustafa Brigades, the military wing of the Popular Front for the Liberation of Palestine (PFLP, a Palestinian Secular Marxism–Leninist/revolutionary socialist organization), published a footage showing its fighters conducting mortar attacks against Israel Defense Forces (IDF)

According to War Noir (https://t.me/war_noir/13541), the Communist Fighters seemingly carried out their attack with a possible 🇮🇷 Iranian-made 120mm DIO HM-16 mortar with M48 HE mortar bombs.

[–] [email protected] 37 points 2 years ago (2 children)

If Hezbollah hits the 'attack from the north right as the IDF enters Gaza' button at the same time that Putin hits the 'big arrow offensive' button and Xi hits the 'liberate Taiwan' button I'm going to scream

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[–] [email protected] 37 points 2 years ago

Intercepted Podcast: Death Toll in Gaza Now Exceeds 5,000

Yousef Munayyer joins Jeremy Scahill and Murtaza Hussain to discuss how the political and regional implications of the war in Palestine extend far beyond its borders.

56 minutes. The first ~30 seconds is an ad.

[–] [email protected] 37 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (3 children)

(CW: for the hardcore tankies EW HASAN EW)

https://youtu.be/JnVtpgCNLA8?t=2147
https://yewtu.be/embed/JnVtpgCNLA8?t=2147 (for privacy comrades)
(disclaimer I'm drunk)
this little bit of a story of Palestinian people trying to help their neighbors only to get genocided broke my fucking heart man. seriously if I was approached with the offer to help develop a virus that only kills kkkrakkkers I think i'd do it, holy fucking shit man...

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[–] [email protected] 37 points 2 years ago (4 children)

The video with the screaming broke me.

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[–] [email protected] 37 points 2 years ago

AJ screenshot of the jenin road Israel bulldozed last night, incidentally right next to the shrine to the murdered journalist

[–] [email protected] 36 points 2 years ago (7 children)

fuck whoever made this video

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[–] [email protected] 36 points 2 years ago

reposting my magnum opus, cause amerikkka amerikkka amerikkka

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