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If you have evidence of Israeli crimes and atrocities that you wish to preserve, there is a thread here in which to do so.


Sources on the fighting in Palestine against Israel. In general, CW for footage of battles, explosions, dead people, and so on:

UNRWA daily-ish reports on Israel's destruction and siege of Gaza and the West Bank.

English-language Palestinian Marxist-Leninist twitter account. Alt here.
English-language twitter account that collates news (and has automated posting when the person running it goes to sleep).
Arab-language twitter account with videos and images of fighting.
English-language (with some Arab retweets) Twitter account based in Lebanon.
English-language Palestinian Twitter account which reports on news from the Resistance Axis.

English-language PalestineResist telegram channel.
More telegram channels here for those interested.

Various sources that are covering the Ukraine conflict are also covering the one in Palestine, like Rybar.


The Country of the Week is still Palestine, though we will switch next week to a new country.


Here is the map of the Ukraine conflict, courtesy of Wikipedia.

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Links and Stuff


The bulletins site is down.

Examples of Ukrainian Nazis and fascists

Examples of racism/euro-centrism during the Russia-Ukraine conflict

Add to the above list if you can.


Resources For Understanding The War


Defense Politics Asia's youtube channel and their map. Their youtube channel has substantially diminished in quality but the map is still useful.

Moon of Alabama, which tends to have interesting analysis. Avoid the comment section.

Understanding War and the Saker: reactionary sources that have occasional insights on the war.

Alexander Mercouris, who does daily videos on the conflict. While he is a reactionary and surrounds himself with likeminded people, his daily update videos are relatively brainworm-free and good if you don't want to follow Russian telegram channels to get news. He also co-hosts The Duran, which is more explicitly conservative, racist, sexist, transphobic, anti-communist, etc when guests are invited on, but is just about tolerable when it's just the two of them if you want a little more analysis.

On the ground: Patrick Lancaster, an independent and very good journalist reporting in the warzone on the separatists' side.

Unedited videos of Russian/Ukrainian press conferences and speeches.


Telegram Channels

Again, CW for anti-LGBT and racist, sexist, etc speech, as well as combat footage.

Pro-Russian

https://t.me/aleksandr_skif ~ DPR's former Defense Minister and Colonel in the DPR's forces. Russian language.

https://t.me/Slavyangrad ~ A few different pro-Russian people gather frequent content for this channel (~100 posts per day), some socialist, but all socially reactionary. If you can only tolerate using one Russian telegram channel, I would recommend this one.

https://t.me/s/levigodman ~ Does daily update posts.

https://t.me/patricklancasternewstoday ~ Patrick Lancaster's telegram channel.

https://t.me/gonzowarr ~ A big Russian commentator.

https://t.me/rybar ~ One of, if not the, biggest Russian telegram channels focussing on the war out there. Actually quite balanced, maybe even pessimistic about Russia. Produces interesting and useful maps.

https://t.me/epoddubny ~ Russian language.

https://t.me/boris_rozhin ~ Russian language.

https://t.me/mod_russia_en ~ Russian Ministry of Defense. Does daily, if rather bland updates on the number of Ukrainians killed, etc. The figures appear to be approximately accurate; if you want, reduce all numbers by 25% as a 'propaganda tax', if you don't believe them. Does not cover everything, for obvious reasons, and virtually never details Russian losses.

https://t.me/UkraineHumanRightsAbuses ~ Pro-Russian, documents abuses that Ukraine commits.

Pro-Ukraine

Almost every Western media outlet.

https://discord.gg/projectowl ~ Pro-Ukrainian OSINT Discord.

https://t.me/ice_inii ~ Alleged Ukrainian account with a rather cynical take on the entire thing.


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[–] [email protected] 48 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago)

It’s a cliche quote but it really feels appropriate now:

Hell is empty and all the devils are here

[–] [email protected] 48 points 2 years ago (2 children)

Pentagon says 900 additional US troops heading to Middle East, but will not go to Israel

The troops are heading to the Middle East as part of “efforts to deter a broader conflict and further bolster us force protection capabilities”, Pentagon spokesperson Brigadier General Patrick Ryder told a news briefing.

The troops include “forces that have been on prepared to deploy orders and which are deploying from the continental United States,” Ryder said, without giving an exact location of where the troops would deploy.

“I can confirm that they are not going to Israel,” he said.

Ryder said that US troops had been targeted 12 times at bases in Iraq and four times in Syria in the past week.

lol yeah ok

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[–] [email protected] 48 points 2 years ago

They should invent a gun that kills everyone in the IOF when you pull the trigger

[–] [email protected] 48 points 2 years ago (7 children)

Israeli media: An Israeli interceptor missile almost brought down a passenger plane

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[–] [email protected] 48 points 2 years ago

i'm more than a lil tipsy and all i want to post everywhere is how much i wish for the end of israel idf-cool

[–] [email protected] 48 points 2 years ago (7 children)

Liberals are so fucking unhinged. Now they’re calling leftists opposed to Zionism “tankies “

Hopefully someone comes up with a good retort that catches fire and exposes it for the meaningless term it is. A westoid in the imperial core calling someone a tankie like it means shit lmfao

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[–] [email protected] 48 points 2 years ago

⚡️Minister of Foreign Affairs of Jordan:

Israel has just begun a ground war on #Gaza, and the result will be a humanitarian catastrophe of massive proportions

[–] [email protected] 48 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (5 children)

US ammendment condemning hamas failled. Let's see if the original proposal by Arab states passes now

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[–] [email protected] 48 points 2 years ago (7 children)

How does the US justify voting against Russia’s resolution calling for a ceasefire?

This is what Robert Wood, the US’s alternate ambassador to the UN, told the Security Council after the United States voted against Russia’s resolution:

“I’ll keep this short because frankly, it’s not worth wasting any more time discussing Russia’s bad-faith resolution.

“Colleagues, the United States could not support yet another Russian resolution that was put forward with no consultation, that failed to reflect the realities on the ground.

“It is disappointing that Russia would rather try and score political points and further divide this council than address the current, urgent needs of Israelis and Palestinians.

“We all see that Russia is doing nothing to engage with any of the relevant parties who support diplomatic efforts, including by the United Nations, to get more aid into Gaza.

“I’ll say this again: The United States stands ready to work with all member-states that are genuinely committed to advancing peace and security. We must put the interests of the region and the world above all else.”

- Al Jazeera

"we voted against the ceasefire because peepee poopoo"

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[–] [email protected] 48 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (2 children)

Blinken told American Jewish leaders on Monday that when he was in Doha on Oct. 13 he asked the Qatari government to change its public posture towards Hamas, three people who attended the meeting said.

According to the three attendees, Blinken said he gave toning down Al Jazeera coverage of the war in Gaza as an example of steps the Qatari government can take to do this. Blinken said he asked the Qataris to "turn down the volume on Al Jazeera's coverage because it is full of anti-Israel incitement," according to one source.

Blinken didn't give any examples of the heightened rhetoric he asked to be dialed back.

Axios

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[–] [email protected] 48 points 2 years ago (9 children)

https://x.com/cneesvzla/status/1716521281812570476

🇻🇪🇬🇾Venezuela proposes the creation of a state to annex the area in dispute with Guyana

The National Electoral Council (CNE) of Venezuela announced this Monday the questions that citizens will answer in the consultative referendum on December 3.

Venezuelans will decide whether or not they agree “with the creation of the Guayana Esequiba state” and that “an accelerated plan be developed for the comprehensive care of the current and future population of that territory that includes, among others, the granting of citizenship and Venezuelan identity card,” indicated the president of the CNE, Elvis Amoroso.

🇬🇾🇻🇪 Guyana asks Venezuela for an explanation for the increase in military activity near Essequibo

https://alertas24.com/internacionales/guyana-pide-una-explicacion-a-venezuela-por-el-aumento-de-activity-militar-cerca-del-esequibo/

hmmmmmmm

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[–] [email protected] 48 points 2 years ago (5 children)

What's going on with those whales that were sinking yachts? Are there enough of them to take down a carrier group?

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[–] [email protected] 47 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (8 children)

US carried out strikes in Syria following attacks on American personnel

The US conducted two strikes on Thursday against facilities in Syria allegedly used by Iran’s Revolutionary Guard Corps and Iran-backed groups, the US Secretary of Defence, Lloyd Austin, said in a statement.

The strikes were ordered by President Biden in response to attacks on American personnel in Syria this week.

One US contractor died during one of the attacks after having a cardiac incident while he was sheltering, and 21 US personnel were injured.

“The United States does not seek conflict and has no intention nor desire to engage in further hostilities, but these Iranian-backed attacks against US forces are unacceptable and must stop,” the statement said.

“These narrowly-tailored strikes in self-defense were intended solely to protect and defend US personnel in Iraq and Syria. They are separate and distinct from the ongoing conflict between Israel and Hamas, and do not constitute a shift in our approach to the Israel-Hamas conflict,” the statement added.

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[–] [email protected] 47 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (2 children)

There is ongoing rocket and mortar fire out of Gaza basically on and off all day. I'm a little over posting all of them at this point so I won't, we're essentially past the point of this being a short event now unless a political miracle happens.

I'll be posting any notable interesting things that are different to the usual routine fighting and bombardment. Along with any of the good propaganda I come across.

Just thought I'd mention this in case anyone thinks this is burnout. It's more like avoiding the stuff that has now become routine.

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[–] [email protected] 47 points 2 years ago (8 children)

This whole war would be over tomorrow if all of Gaza just converted to Mormonism.

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[–] [email protected] 47 points 2 years ago (1 children)

I take a break for a few days for my mental health and the moment I come back a land invasion is going on

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[–] [email protected] 47 points 2 years ago (4 children)

Chinese Defense Minister Li Shangfu has officially been removed from his post. Former Foreign Minister of the People's Republic of China Qin Gang has been officially removed from the State Council of the People's Republic of China.

Comrade Xi can have a little purge as a treat.

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[–] [email protected] 47 points 2 years ago (3 children)

In her address to the UN General Assembly, US ambassador to the UN, Linda Thomas-Greenfield, said that it is “outrageous” the word “Hamas” is not mentioned.

“The Arab ambassadors say that they do not want to make this document political. That is why they say there’s not a need to include the word Hamas in there,” Elizondo said.

The amount of pure hatred I feel towards the U.S. ugh.

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[–] [email protected] 47 points 2 years ago (3 children)

"There were no initial signs of terrorism."

Re: the Maine mass shooting.

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[–] [email protected] 47 points 2 years ago (8 children)

I've noticed the caricatures of Americans where I live has changed over the years. It used to be a fat, sunburned asshole with cargo shorts and a bucket hat screaming angrily. Women were portrayed as blonde babes showing lots of skin and sleeping with everyone.

Now it's more of an effeminate man who acts stereotypically gay and speaks flamboyantly while flaunting expensive products. American women are depicted as having too much plastic surgery and fillers with an extremely promiscuous attitude.

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[–] [email protected] 47 points 2 years ago

Large crowds have gathered in central London for a demonstration in support of the Palestinian people, with tens of thousands expected to take to the streets. A pro-Palestinian rally in London last week drew an estimated 100,000 people, and similar numbers are expected today.

Demonstrations are also planned today in Manchester, England, and in Glasgow.

https://streamable.com/nync08

https://www.nytimes.com/live/2023/10/28/world/israel-gaza-war-hamas-news/226ea49c-e34e-5cad-9567-4d9dcf7ba382?smid=url-share

[–] [email protected] 47 points 2 years ago (6 children)
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[–] [email protected] 47 points 2 years ago (4 children)

Ukrainian Navy has said that they're going to destroy the crimean bridge.

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[–] [email protected] 47 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago)

lol they immediately dropped the new speaker nominee that didn’t last long. Honestly keep it going it’s not going to get extremely funny until we start getting closer to the government shutdown without even a speaker

[–] [email protected] 47 points 2 years ago (2 children)
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[–] [email protected] 47 points 2 years ago

Country Assumes They Are the World’s Morality Arbiter As They Routinely Have Terror Attacks

[–] [email protected] 47 points 2 years ago

Israel is doing the "source: trust me bro" thing again but they now don't even hand over the materials about the claimed atrocities to journalists in fear of them maybe examining them.

[–] [email protected] 47 points 2 years ago

The final sentence: "WhatsApp and iMessage are not delivering, and when using the internet to call, it just rings endlessly."

"I don’t know if they are safe or not": Family members left in dark after communications go down in Gaza

People who have family in Gaza tell CNN they have not been able to contact them after communications went down in the enclave following heavy airstrikes.

Jawwal, the Palestinian telecom company that provides mobile service to the Gaza Strip released a statement Friday night saying "the intense bombardment in the past hour has resulted in the destruction of all remaining international routes connecting Gaza with the outside world" leading to a "complete interruption of telecommunications services".

Said Alhayek, 42, from Las Vegas, said he has not been able to reach his family in Gaza.

“It’s like sitting in the dark not knowing what is going to hit you, I can’t reach them on any medium of communication at this point, I can’t even know if they are okay or not, I don’t know if they are safe or not," Alhayek said. "Also, the fact that they cut off communication, makes us feel as though they are about to do something terrible.” Adli Anwar, 57, who is living in Ottowa, Canada, also said he has no way of communicating with his family.

“I can’t get anything — about three hours ago, we lost all communications, no phones, no internet, nothing. Before it would connect, about 80% of the time, and now it’s zero percent. It doesn’t get to the international line," Anwar said.

CNN tried calling several contacts with Gaza numbers over the last hour, both over international calling and over WhatsApp. On the international calls, they either go straight to voicemail or an automated message says “the number you are calling is currently unreachable. Please try again later.”

WhatsApp and iMessage are not delivering, and when using the internet to call, it just rings endlessly.

https://www.cnn.com/middleeast/live-news/israel-hamas-war-gaza-news-10-27-23/h_dbbf852de6de3b8753a6a9f31a31e335

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