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Sources on the fighting in Palestine against Israel. In general, CW for footage of battles, explosions, dead people, and so on:

UNRWA daily-ish reports on Israel's destruction and siege of Gaza and the West Bank.

English-language Palestinian Marxist-Leninist twitter account. Alt here.
English-language twitter account that collates news (and has automated posting when the person running it goes to sleep).
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More telegram channels here for those interested.

Various sources that are covering the Ukraine conflict are also covering the one in Palestine, like Rybar.


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Examples of Ukrainian Nazis and fascists

Examples of racism/euro-centrism during the Russia-Ukraine conflict

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Resources For Understanding The War


Defense Politics Asia's youtube channel and their map. Their youtube channel has substantially diminished in quality but the map is still useful.

Moon of Alabama, which tends to have interesting analysis. Avoid the comment section.

Understanding War and the Saker: reactionary sources that have occasional insights on the war.

Alexander Mercouris, who does daily videos on the conflict. While he is a reactionary and surrounds himself with likeminded people, his daily update videos are relatively brainworm-free and good if you don't want to follow Russian telegram channels to get news. He also co-hosts The Duran, which is more explicitly conservative, racist, sexist, transphobic, anti-communist, etc when guests are invited on, but is just about tolerable when it's just the two of them if you want a little more analysis.

On the ground: Patrick Lancaster, an independent and very good journalist reporting in the warzone on the separatists' side.

Unedited videos of Russian/Ukrainian press conferences and speeches.


Telegram Channels

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Pro-Russian

https://t.me/aleksandr_skif ~ DPR's former Defense Minister and Colonel in the DPR's forces. Russian language.

https://t.me/Slavyangrad ~ A few different pro-Russian people gather frequent content for this channel (~100 posts per day), some socialist, but all socially reactionary. If you can only tolerate using one Russian telegram channel, I would recommend this one.

https://t.me/s/levigodman ~ Does daily update posts.

https://t.me/patricklancasternewstoday ~ Patrick Lancaster's telegram channel.

https://t.me/gonzowarr ~ A big Russian commentator.

https://t.me/rybar ~ One of, if not the, biggest Russian telegram channels focussing on the war out there. Actually quite balanced, maybe even pessimistic about Russia. Produces interesting and useful maps.

https://t.me/epoddubny ~ Russian language.

https://t.me/boris_rozhin ~ Russian language.

https://t.me/mod_russia_en ~ Russian Ministry of Defense. Does daily, if rather bland updates on the number of Ukrainians killed, etc. The figures appear to be approximately accurate; if you want, reduce all numbers by 25% as a 'propaganda tax', if you don't believe them. Does not cover everything, for obvious reasons, and virtually never details Russian losses.

https://t.me/UkraineHumanRightsAbuses ~ Pro-Russian, documents abuses that Ukraine commits.

Pro-Ukraine

Almost every Western media outlet.

https://discord.gg/projectowl ~ Pro-Ukrainian OSINT Discord.

https://t.me/ice_inii ~ Alleged Ukrainian account with a rather cynical take on the entire thing.


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[–] [email protected] 48 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (2 children)

Blinken told American Jewish leaders on Monday that when he was in Doha on Oct. 13 he asked the Qatari government to change its public posture towards Hamas, three people who attended the meeting said.

According to the three attendees, Blinken said he gave toning down Al Jazeera coverage of the war in Gaza as an example of steps the Qatari government can take to do this. Blinken said he asked the Qataris to "turn down the volume on Al Jazeera's coverage because it is full of anti-Israel incitement," according to one source.

Blinken didn't give any examples of the heightened rhetoric he asked to be dialed back.

Axios

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[–] [email protected] 48 points 1 year ago (7 children)

Israeli media: An Israeli interceptor missile almost brought down a passenger plane

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[–] [email protected] 48 points 1 year ago (7 children)

How does the US justify voting against Russia’s resolution calling for a ceasefire?

This is what Robert Wood, the US’s alternate ambassador to the UN, told the Security Council after the United States voted against Russia’s resolution:

“I’ll keep this short because frankly, it’s not worth wasting any more time discussing Russia’s bad-faith resolution.

“Colleagues, the United States could not support yet another Russian resolution that was put forward with no consultation, that failed to reflect the realities on the ground.

“It is disappointing that Russia would rather try and score political points and further divide this council than address the current, urgent needs of Israelis and Palestinians.

“We all see that Russia is doing nothing to engage with any of the relevant parties who support diplomatic efforts, including by the United Nations, to get more aid into Gaza.

“I’ll say this again: The United States stands ready to work with all member-states that are genuinely committed to advancing peace and security. We must put the interests of the region and the world above all else.”

- Al Jazeera

"we voted against the ceasefire because peepee poopoo"

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[–] [email protected] 48 points 1 year ago (7 children)

Liberals are so fucking unhinged. Now they’re calling leftists opposed to Zionism “tankies “

Hopefully someone comes up with a good retort that catches fire and exposes it for the meaningless term it is. A westoid in the imperial core calling someone a tankie like it means shit lmfao

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[–] [email protected] 48 points 1 year ago (5 children)

Guatemala is trying to pull another Arbenz, except this guy is more like Bernie than Arbenz. The US is actually supportive of the president-elect this time around. It's probably because his foreign policy isn't that much different from Boric's in Chile. Very anti-Russia, Nicaragua, and Venezuela. He seems to want more trade with China though while still wishing to recognize Taiwan.

Lula has also thrown in his support. The guy may not be the most radical, but it's nice to see a somewhat left-wing candidate in our country get some international support over the right-wing.

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[–] [email protected] 48 points 1 year ago

They should invent a gun that kills everyone in the IOF when you pull the trigger

[–] [email protected] 48 points 1 year ago

i'm more than a lil tipsy and all i want to post everywhere is how much i wish for the end of israel idf-cool

[–] [email protected] 48 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (5 children)

US ammendment condemning hamas failled. Let's see if the original proposal by Arab states passes now

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[–] [email protected] 48 points 1 year ago

⚡️Minister of Foreign Affairs of Jordan:

Israel has just begun a ground war on #Gaza, and the result will be a humanitarian catastrophe of massive proportions

[–] [email protected] 48 points 1 year ago (5 children)

What's going on with those whales that were sinking yachts? Are there enough of them to take down a carrier group?

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[–] [email protected] 47 points 1 year ago (4 children)

Chinese Defense Minister Li Shangfu has officially been removed from his post. Former Foreign Minister of the People's Republic of China Qin Gang has been officially removed from the State Council of the People's Republic of China.

Comrade Xi can have a little purge as a treat.

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[–] [email protected] 47 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I take a break for a few days for my mental health and the moment I come back a land invasion is going on

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[–] [email protected] 47 points 1 year ago (8 children)

I've noticed the caricatures of Americans where I live has changed over the years. It used to be a fat, sunburned asshole with cargo shorts and a bucket hat screaming angrily. Women were portrayed as blonde babes showing lots of skin and sleeping with everyone.

Now it's more of an effeminate man who acts stereotypically gay and speaks flamboyantly while flaunting expensive products. American women are depicted as having too much plastic surgery and fillers with an extremely promiscuous attitude.

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[–] [email protected] 47 points 1 year ago (3 children)

In her address to the UN General Assembly, US ambassador to the UN, Linda Thomas-Greenfield, said that it is “outrageous” the word “Hamas” is not mentioned.

“The Arab ambassadors say that they do not want to make this document political. That is why they say there’s not a need to include the word Hamas in there,” Elizondo said.

The amount of pure hatred I feel towards the U.S. ugh.

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[–] [email protected] 47 points 1 year ago

The final sentence: "WhatsApp and iMessage are not delivering, and when using the internet to call, it just rings endlessly."

"I don’t know if they are safe or not": Family members left in dark after communications go down in Gaza

People who have family in Gaza tell CNN they have not been able to contact them after communications went down in the enclave following heavy airstrikes.

Jawwal, the Palestinian telecom company that provides mobile service to the Gaza Strip released a statement Friday night saying "the intense bombardment in the past hour has resulted in the destruction of all remaining international routes connecting Gaza with the outside world" leading to a "complete interruption of telecommunications services".

Said Alhayek, 42, from Las Vegas, said he has not been able to reach his family in Gaza.

“It’s like sitting in the dark not knowing what is going to hit you, I can’t reach them on any medium of communication at this point, I can’t even know if they are okay or not, I don’t know if they are safe or not," Alhayek said. "Also, the fact that they cut off communication, makes us feel as though they are about to do something terrible.” Adli Anwar, 57, who is living in Ottowa, Canada, also said he has no way of communicating with his family.

“I can’t get anything — about three hours ago, we lost all communications, no phones, no internet, nothing. Before it would connect, about 80% of the time, and now it’s zero percent. It doesn’t get to the international line," Anwar said.

CNN tried calling several contacts with Gaza numbers over the last hour, both over international calling and over WhatsApp. On the international calls, they either go straight to voicemail or an automated message says “the number you are calling is currently unreachable. Please try again later.”

WhatsApp and iMessage are not delivering, and when using the internet to call, it just rings endlessly.

https://www.cnn.com/middleeast/live-news/israel-hamas-war-gaza-news-10-27-23/h_dbbf852de6de3b8753a6a9f31a31e335

[–] [email protected] 47 points 1 year ago

Al Jazeera:

Gaza residents break into aid centres: UN
Thousands of Gaza residents have broken into warehouses and distribution centres of the United Nations Palestinian Refugee Agency (UNRWA) grabbing flour and “basic survival items”, according to the organisation.
“This is a worrying sign that civil order is starting to break down after three weeks of war and a tight siege on Gaza,” said Thomas White, the director of UNRWA affairs in the Gaza Strip, in a statement.
“People are scared, frustrated and desperate. Tensions and fear are made worse by the cuts in the phones and internet communication lines. They feel that they are on their own, cut off from their families inside Gaza and the rest of the world.
“Supplies on the market are running out while the humanitarian aid coming into the Gaza Strip on trucks from Egypt is insufficient.”
Aid supplies to Gaza have been choked since Israel began bombarding in early October.
On Saturday, Egypt’s Foreign Ministry said “Israeli obstacles” were impeding the prompt delivery of aid through the Rafah crossing.

[–] [email protected] 47 points 1 year ago

Large crowds have gathered in central London for a demonstration in support of the Palestinian people, with tens of thousands expected to take to the streets. A pro-Palestinian rally in London last week drew an estimated 100,000 people, and similar numbers are expected today.

Demonstrations are also planned today in Manchester, England, and in Glasgow.

https://streamable.com/nync08

https://www.nytimes.com/live/2023/10/28/world/israel-gaza-war-hamas-news/226ea49c-e34e-5cad-9567-4d9dcf7ba382?smid=url-share

[–] [email protected] 47 points 1 year ago (6 children)
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[–] [email protected] 47 points 1 year ago

Country Assumes They Are the World’s Morality Arbiter As They Routinely Have Terror Attacks

[–] [email protected] 47 points 1 year ago (4 children)

Ukrainian Navy has said that they're going to destroy the crimean bridge.

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[–] [email protected] 47 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Al Jazeera:

Gaza right now

Israeli air raids have destroyed hundreds of buildings in the Gaza Strip overnight, the civil defence service in Gaza has said.
“Hundreds of buildings and houses were completely destroyed and thousands of other homes were damaged,” Mahmud Bassal, a spokesman for the Gaza Civil Defence told AFP, adding that the intense bombardments had “changed the landscape” of northern Gaza.

[–] [email protected] 47 points 1 year ago (2 children)
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[–] [email protected] 47 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

lol they immediately dropped the new speaker nominee that didn’t last long. Honestly keep it going it’s not going to get extremely funny until we start getting closer to the government shutdown without even a speaker

[–] [email protected] 47 points 1 year ago (3 children)

"There were no initial signs of terrorism."

Re: the Maine mass shooting.

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[–] [email protected] 47 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (2 children)

There is ongoing rocket and mortar fire out of Gaza basically on and off all day. I'm a little over posting all of them at this point so I won't, we're essentially past the point of this being a short event now unless a political miracle happens.

I'll be posting any notable interesting things that are different to the usual routine fighting and bombardment. Along with any of the good propaganda I come across.

Just thought I'd mention this in case anyone thinks this is burnout. It's more like avoiding the stuff that has now become routine.

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[–] [email protected] 47 points 1 year ago

Israel is doing the "source: trust me bro" thing again but they now don't even hand over the materials about the claimed atrocities to journalists in fear of them maybe examining them.

[–] [email protected] 47 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Finland Says Hong Kong-Flagged Ship Anchor Breached Pipeline (Bloomberg)

Surprise, surprise.

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