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its october and the only horror movies i've watched are scream 1-3. they are ok for what they are (deconstruction of horror tropes via murder mystery), but i need something spicier. something existentially horrifying, not just a wrinkly monster chase or a crazy guy hacking up white girls. something that follows you out of the movie and changes how you think about the world for a few days before you're normal again. stuff that pulls at the threads of your understanding of reality. a lot of so called psychological thrillers do this but thats not specifically what i'm looking for as much as existential terror.

since i created this post i'll start with suggestions of my own

1 - SKINAMARINK

watch this without any research or info going in. all i will say is that there is limited dialogue and the amount of times you see a face or character asymptotically approaches zero. watch while stoned for maximum effect.

2 - They Look Like People

psychological thriller, avoiding spoilers but i'll say that it mayyybe leans into some problematic ableist tropes relating to mental health common to the horror genre. i have a friend that loves this movie and relates to it strongly for mental health reasons though so i might be over- or under- analyzing.

3 - The Lighthouse

monochrome period piece. 2 boys 1 lighthouse. you can probably predict how this goes but the execution is so worth it, the actors are amazing and the cinematography is excellent.

thats pretty much all i got, i haven't seen that many movies.

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[–] [email protected] 18 points 11 months ago (2 children)

Definitely check out The Witch (2015) if you haven't already, it's from the same director as The Lighthouse.

Candyman (1992) is one of the greatest gothic horror films of all time IMO. The premise makes it sound like a cheesy slasher movie but it's actually quite beautiful and profound.

I'd also recommend the original Hellraiser (1987) and Possession (1981). Really I could go on, but I'll keep the list short.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 11 months ago

Candyman is a great horror flick. I was about 13-14 when it came out. I got dropped off at the local cinema to meet a friend to go watch it since his brother worked the ticket booth and we could get in that way. The Candyman scared me, and Virginia Madsen made me feel some sort of way. Good tines.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 11 months ago

Idk if the VVitch caused any existential fear but it was so atmospheric and the landscapes so similar to the local forests that it had me a feeling little anxious in the woods for a few days after.

spoilerwhich is impressive in retrospect since the movie doesn't really have a spooky monster or malevolent being that'll 'jump out and get you', for me it just strongly associated that winter season dreary grey pine forest vibe with creeping dread scared

[–] [email protected] 14 points 11 months ago

I really like It Follows.

[–] [email protected] 13 points 11 months ago (7 children)

Skinamarink was awful. Don't fall for this, people. They're trying to trick us into watching bad YouTube ARGs stretched out to feature length.

[–] [email protected] 8 points 11 months ago

Skinamarink was unlike any feature-length film I’ve seen, but not exactly in a good way. Like I kind of enjoyed it, but I hesitate to recommend it to anyone unless they’re into ‘challenging’ kinds of movies. I don’t really have any desire to watch it again.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 11 months ago

its a bugman movie for sure

[–] [email protected] 4 points 11 months ago

I watched with a friend and we ended up watching it at 1.5 speed just so it could end faster

[–] [email protected] 4 points 11 months ago

It did have the side effect of this video being made so it’s not all bad https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=qQ1NDTHA85I&pp=ygUZc2tpbmFtYXJpbmsgZGVsZXRlZCBzY2VuZQ%3D%3D

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[–] [email protected] 12 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago) (1 children)

Of the bat I should say say my tastes are for the more surreal, psychological and Lovecraftian/Cosmic horror stuff.

  • Possession - Zulawski. Massive content warning: extreme and disturbing violence. There is psychological and sexual violence in this film. That being said it's one of my top movie experiences of all time. I definitely don't recommend this if you struggle at all with those things in horror (or horror in general). If you are fine with this in art then best going in as blind as possible. Also very arthouse.

  • On the Silver Globe - also by Zulawski. You wouldn't know this has horror elements until you watch it. Alot of people wouldn't call it horror but I think the horrific aspects struck me very strongly when I saw it recently. Again massive content warning as it is quite disturbing. Very surreal and difficult to follow (partly because the full version is not available as it was destroyed by the Polish government at the time).

Other Zulawski films with horror elements: Third Part of the Night, Devil. His films tend to be very surreal, with the emphasis on psychological and Lovecraftian or cosmic horror, expressed through more immediate, concrete, domestic or historical events.

  • Twin Peaks - S1, S2, Fire Walk With Me, S3. A Masterpiece. Especially the ending of S2, FWWM and all of S3. David Lynch.
  • Mulholland Drive, Lost Highway, Eraserhead, Blue Velvet. All classics with dream-logic surrealism and Lovecraftian horror elements. All by Lynch.

For some weird British horror by Ken Russell (I can still scarcely believe that a straight man made these films), which also have some comedic elements:

  • Gothic - hysterically camp psychological horror
  • The Devils - hail Satan
  • Lair of the White Worm - surreal comedic folk horror. Has a young Hugh Grant. Also I don't care what you're sexuality is but no way it couldn't be affected by Amanda Donohoe in this.

Related to that is another Polish classic: Mother Joan of the Angels. This is actually about the same series of events as the Russell's The Devils, but set in the aftermath of the event depicted in that film. That being said the films are also very different in tone. The Poles in general are excellent at horror for some reason.

Also there are honestly also a bunch of American horror classics:

  • Alien - gets more terrifying to me the older I get.
  • The Thing
  • Nightmare on Elm street - I was pleasantly surprised by this once. Expected it to be trash.
  • Rosemary's Baby - by Polanski, just so you know. Hail Satan.
  • The Texas Chainsaw Massacre - I also also surprised by this. Also thought it would be garbage.
  • Reanimator
  • Carrie
  • Beyond
  • Prince of Darkness
  • In the Mouth of Madness
  • Dawn of the Dead
  • Day of the Dead
  • Psycho
  • The Birds
  • The Fly
  • Videodrome
  • Alice in Wonderland - yes the Disney one. This scared the bejeezus out of me as a child. There's also a classic Soviet-Ukrainian version you can find on Dailymotion in two parts.
  • The Love Witch - more a modern satire and homage than actual horror but worth the watch.

An interesting recent guy is obviously Robert Eggers, whose been revitalizing Folk Horror:

  • The Witch
  • The Lighthouse

The Brits are also low-key very good at Folk Horror:

  • Blood on Satan's Claw
  • Witchfinder General
  • The Wicker Man
  • A Field in England
  • Enys Men
  • Penda's Fen
  • Werewolf in London

Another British classic:

  • Peeping Tom

  • Mystic's in Bali for interesting non-Western stuff.

  • Viy for Russian folk horror.

  • A Girl Walks Home Alone at Night

  • Let the Right one In

  • Jonathan - a German Vampire film that makes clear the class-warfare angle on Vampires.

Also recomment Dario Argento. Suspiria is legit a classic. Just don't think too hard about the plots. Also Lucio Fulci. See City of the Living Dead and The Beyond. Very gory.

Another very weird and gory one in the same ballpark at Fulci is the cult classic Messiah of Evil.

Also worth saying that some old classics like Nosferatu (1922) and The Cabinet of Dr Caligari are still worth a watch, especially if you're interested in the evolution of cinema as an artform and aesthetic language. Still trippy.

The Herzog Nosferatu is also a classic imo. The Hammer Dracula films with Christopher Lee are very silly but I like them. Coppolo's Dracula is an underrated classic and I'm tired of pretending otherwise.

There's also several Japanese horror classics (obvs):

  • Cure
  • Pulse (Kairo) - both these are are Kiyoshi Kurosawa
  • Ringu
  • Onibaba
  • Keroneko
  • Jigoku
  • Hausu - this is so batshit insane it's unbelievable.
  • Kwaidan
  • Horrors of Malformed Men - literally some of the craziest shit I've seen.
  • Pandemonium
  • Angel's Egg
  • Perfect Blue: content warning sexual violence.
  • Vampire Hunter D
  • Vampire Hunter D: Bloodlust
  • Genocyber - content warning this is super gory.
  • NInja Scroll: content warning sexual violence.
  • Devilman: The Birth
  • Devilman: Demon Bird Sirène
[–] [email protected] 2 points 11 months ago (1 children)

Lair of the White Worm also has a young Peter Capaldi in it, which rules. I love him.

Also you reminded me I've seen Horrors of Malformed Men before and blocked out the memories. What a fucking weird movie.

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[–] [email protected] 10 points 11 months ago

I am surprised no one mentioned my all time favorite: The Fly by David Cronenberg with Jeff Goldblum.

Most horror movies present you with an external threat. The good protagonist is threatened by external forces like zombies, murderers, psychopaths etc. The Fly is different in that there isn't really a bad guy. You identify with the monster just as much as with their victim.

For me that makes a much more powerful horror experience, because in my day to day life I don't have any meaningful external threats. Sure, there are thieves, murderers, angry mobs etc. in our world, but it's not like I woke up hoping that today I wouldn't meet one of them.

But this fear of losing control over yourself, lashing out at your children, saying something wrong at work or losing control in a very different way like finding out you have a tumor that has been growing inside of you for a long time - those threats are much more real to me.

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[–] [email protected] 7 points 11 months ago

that movie is bananas

[–] [email protected] 9 points 11 months ago (3 children)

I’d recommend

  • REC
  • The Babadook
  • Saint Maud
  • Barbarian
  • The Descent
  • The Changling (1981)
  • The Platform
  • You’re Next

Also what other people posted

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[–] [email protected] 8 points 11 months ago

The original Night of the Living Dead does so much with its limited resources, actors, and locations. I just rewatched it because of the recent Movie Mindset episode about it, and it's still a gut punch of a movie. There's a reason it's the granddaddy of the zombie genre.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 11 months ago (3 children)

Your namesake, Dumplings, was fun iirc. Lady makes age defying dumplings, hijinks ensue

[–] [email protected] 7 points 11 months ago

berdly-actually my name is a reference for the peak genre of posting/alienating everyone around you (thus achieving the coveted status of 'non-posting'), but i'll check it out

[–] [email protected] 3 points 11 months ago

The French one Delicatessen was good too.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 11 months ago

Same director made Imprint. Now that is a fucked up movie

[–] [email protected] 7 points 11 months ago

Annihilation, Event Horizon, Color out of Space, and on a lighter note: Glorious

[–] [email protected] 6 points 11 months ago

I rewatched The Descent last night. It's very creepy and claustrophic.

The Descent (2005)

A caving expedition goes horribly wrong, as the explorers become trapped and ultimately pursued by a strange breed of predators.

To create the mood - there must have been some CGI and at times they surely were filming on sets but the direction, photography, and set design worked in concert. I really felt like I was underground with them.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 11 months ago

Under the skin

[–] [email protected] 6 points 11 months ago (2 children)

In the most mainstream, I think that both Ari Aster and Jordan Peele are challenging the ruts the genre has gotten itself in to. Midsommar effected me for days.

A while back, I ran across Hagazussa. Its a difficult watch (content warning for extreme sexual violence and infanticide), but it also has that quality of reality unbound. Its slow, atmospheric, and terrible.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 11 months ago (1 children)

I loved Midsommar and just saw Hereditary and thought it was fantastic although a little scattered. Midsommar predicts the liberal obsession with Nazis in Ukraine IMO.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 11 months ago (2 children)

I don't track that last bit

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[–] [email protected] 6 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago) (1 children)

Stalker may fit. It's not a scary movie, but I think it could be considered existential horror - though not quite in a tragic or hopeless sense.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 11 months ago

incredible movie, just saw it a few weeks ago

[–] [email protected] 6 points 11 months ago (2 children)

My impression of horror as a genre is basically that the point is "here's some bad stuff happening to some people. Sure does get the blood pumping to imagine it could happen to you!" Which is why I never watch horror because that just isn't interesting or enjoyable for me at all. I like seeing good things happen to nice people who then live nice lives, as a general rule.

Am I missing something about horror or is that basically it?

I've enjoyed a little bit of horror, like certain Junji Ito works which seem less like "here's some bad stuff happening to people" and more like "here's some wacky shit happening to people and it's unclear whether it could even be defined as good or bad all things considered" but even most of his are still "wow, this person's life really sucks, wanna see it get even worse?"

[–] [email protected] 4 points 11 months ago

Seeing good things happening to nice people never lets them show off what they're really made of. Its easy to be nice when nothing bad is happening to you. Its much harder when your world is falling apart. Also, I like monsters

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[–] [email protected] 5 points 11 months ago

Incident in a Ghost Land has dogshit trans representation but is one of the scariest movies I've ever seen. Martyrs is a very disturbing but brilliant French film. If you like anime try Perfect Blue. Black Swan is a live action film with very similar themes. The original Let The Right One In is very good but don't watch the remake. High Tension is a straight up French slasher that I remember being pretty good but I saw it a long time ago

[–] [email protected] 5 points 11 months ago

No one mentioned The Ritual yet, it was a good movie that impressed me as it went along. I also recommend watching it with no prior info going in.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 11 months ago

I really like Possessor (2020). It’s stylish, trippy, and violent, with good/interesting politics. It’s one of an only a few movies that I’ve ever felt compelled to watch more than once, and I’ve watched 4 times now.

The same director made Infinity Pool, which I also thought was good!

[–] [email protected] 5 points 11 months ago

I enjoyed Pontypool. It's like a palate cleanser for the zombie genre. Likewise, don't go in reading too much

[–] [email protected] 4 points 11 months ago

I saw SKINAMARINK in theaters and it scared the living piss out of me

[–] [email protected] 4 points 11 months ago

I just watched They Look Like People all the way through before being 100% sure that I'd seen it before.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 11 months ago (1 children)

Eraserhead. Genuinely changed the way I thought about horror as a genre.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 11 months ago

And by extension Fire Walk Wth Me. Maybe just quickly go through the first two seasons of Twin Peaks for good measure, then season 3! Lol

[–] [email protected] 4 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago)

Dead Calm (1989)

[–] [email protected] 4 points 11 months ago

The Descent, Alien, Wallace & Grommit's "The Wrong Trousers"

[–] [email protected] 4 points 11 months ago (1 children)

The Wailing, Suspiria (both versions but I prefer the original), GonJiam: Haunted Asylum, Mourning Grave, and unironically Killer Klowns from Outer Space. Also if you enjoyed skinamarink you might enjoy The Wolf House

[–] [email protected] 2 points 11 months ago

The Wolf House is so doomjak

It did leave me thinking there's a great horror film to be made about Colonia Dignidad though.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 11 months ago

John Dies at the End is a very odd sort of... Surrealist horror comedy? I really liked it but I haven't seen it talked about much. The IMDB parents guide gives an idea of what you're in for: https://www.imdb.com/title/tt1783732/parentalguide

Another relatively unknown horror film (afaik) is Der Todesking. It's well done for such a low budget film, but it's pretty fucked up (CW for suicide) and you'd probably want to be in the right state of mind before watching it.

Begotten is another very odd horror film (in black and white) and it's about god committing suicide and giving birth to humanity, or something.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 11 months ago

You want a horror movie that can change the way you think about the world... Dominion definitely did that for me! It can even be watched for free watchdominion.org

[–] [email protected] 3 points 11 months ago

Two from this year I enjoyed: Talk to Me, a funny and gruesome riff on "viral media" that's actually sharp and well-written for a change, and Birth/Rebirth, a gnarly and atmospheric Frankenstein story in a modern setting.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 11 months ago

Event Horizon, Antichrist

[–] [email protected] 3 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago)

Watch Creep 2, its not “scary scary” but its soo good

You dont even need to watch Creep first since the first scene is basically an abridged version of the first one

[–] [email protected] 2 points 11 months ago (1 children)

Surprised nobody has mentioned the monolith that is Funny Games. I don't think I've ever seen a twist done as well as the remote scene.

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[–] [email protected] 2 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago) (1 children)

Skinamarink is god tier and anyone who even thinks it's not a masterpiece should ironically be murdered in their home.

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