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There have been five wars fought between Israel and its neighbors in the last fifteen years. Over that time, and before, there have been thousands of diplomats from around the world working on a variety of plans to bring peace and stability to the region, and hundreds of conferences. They have all failed.

Today, the situation in the area is more horrific, more brutal, more inhumane, and more dangerous than ever before. I wish I could tell you that I had some magic solution, or five-point plan to resolve this never-ending crisis. I don’t. But this I do know.

The barbarous terrorist act committed by Hamas against innocent men, women, and children in Israel was a horrific act that must be strongly condemned by the entire world. There is absolutely no justification for shooting down hundreds of young people at a music festival, killing babies in cold blood and taking hostages. In my view, the state of Israel has the absolute right to defend itself against Hamas' terrorism.

It is also clear that this attack will only embolden the extremists on both sides who see violence as the only answer. It also creates the immediate possibility of a wider war in the area with unforeseen and dangerous consequences.

But in the midst of the terrorism, the missiles and bombs being exploded daily, and a hospital in Gaza being destroyed, there is another humanitarian disaster that is unfolding. Today, as a result of an Israeli evacuation order, hundreds of thousands of innocent and desperate people in Gaza are facing inhumane and life-threatening conditions. These are people who have been driven from their homes, who have no food, water, or fuel, who don’t know where they are going or who will accept them or if they will ever again return to their homes. And I would remind you that half of those people are children.

Last night, on the floor of the Senate, I blocked an effort on the part of some Republicans to prevent desperately needed humanitarian aid from the United Nations and other relief agencies from getting to these Palestinians.

In these very difficult times, we cannot turn our backs on these innocent men, women and children who are desperately trying to survive. That is not what this country must ever be about.

I hope you'll watch and share it today:

https://x.com/sensanders/status/1714806126863143292?s=46&t=VjJ-cjQEBBD1s8bwm18Jyw

In solidarity,

Bernie Sanders

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[–] [email protected] 73 points 1 year ago (1 children)

In my view, all Palestinians have the absolute right to defend themselves

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[–] [email protected] 71 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)
  1. supported NATO bombing of yugoslavia

  2. supported US invasion of Afghanistan

  3. incessantly whines about how imperial periphery countries are just as responsible for pollution as imperial core countries, even though the imperial core countries industrialized way earlier in history, accumulated capital, and then outsources all their pollution-generating industrial activities to the periphery in demand for cheap labor and cheap commodities

  4. "joe biden is my good friend"

yep. it's social fascism time

sicko-hexbear-crowdxi-gun-2 antler-bernie

[–] [email protected] 70 points 1 year ago

Carefully chosen words to make sure he didn't describe active violence from Israelis against Palestinians. The Palestinians were terrorists, but bombs and explosions and destruction and lack of water/power/medical supplies just happened in Gaza.

[–] [email protected] 63 points 1 year ago

(Palestinians) Feel the Bern (of white phosphorus)

[–] [email protected] 60 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Cowardly, genocide supporting, piece of shit. Even Corbyn has managed to walk the line and stick to his ideals on this.

[–] [email protected] 24 points 1 year ago (4 children)

Corbin was always better on foreign policy than Bernie. He’s no Mao but still miles better

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[–] [email protected] 58 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Years of my life wasted on this Zionist fuck

[–] [email protected] 36 points 1 year ago (6 children)

Homeboy could have just retired after losing in 2016 and been remembered fondly as the grandpa of a whole new wave of people on the left.

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[–] [email protected] 58 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (2 children)

in solidarity

Fuck off Bernard. How fucking dare he. That's fine if you demand Palestinian blood sacrifice like every other people in power in DC, but have the decency of not steal the language of our collective struggle on top.

[–] [email protected] 26 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

In solidarity (with the hospital/place of worship bombers & warmongers)

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[–] [email protected] 56 points 1 year ago

missiles and bombs being exploded daily

a hospital in Gaza being destroyed

We gotta stop this mf called 'being'

[–] [email protected] 55 points 1 year ago

They have the right to defend themselves by committing unlimited genocide on whoever they want so long as it matchesus-foreign-policy

[–] [email protected] 53 points 1 year ago (3 children)
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[–] [email protected] 52 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

The barbarous terrorist act committed by Hamas

the state of Israel has the absolute right to defend itself against Hamas' terrorism

Contrasted with

missiles and bombs being exploded daily

there is another humanitarian disaster that is unfolding

people who have been driven from their homes

Using this same duplicitous language as media - Palestine (the powerless side with literally no other options) shoulders all the agency and blame for killing Israelis, and Palestinian civilians are just, y'know, suffering a coincidental disaster. All the IDF are doing is giving evacuation orders! Never mind the explicit, deliberate, internationally recognised war crimes they're committing on a daily basis.

Bernie couldn't even both-sides this shit? He went full explicit support for Israel. Truly awful.

[–] [email protected] 50 points 1 year ago

tErRoRiSm

Piece of shit should keep "solidarity" out of his mouth

[–] [email protected] 49 points 1 year ago (3 children)

"An eye for an eye will only make the whole world blind"

I wish I could tell you that I had some magic solution, or five-point plan to resolve this never-ending crisis. I don’t.

Then stfu Bernie

[–] [email protected] 52 points 1 year ago (7 children)

i got a five-point plan:

  1. israel is dissolved
  2. palestinains (including anyone rendered stateless by 1, but not any dual+ citizens of the former israel) form a government based on the vietnamese model
  3. settlers gtfo if they don't like it
  4. huh i guess there's an extra one
  5. death to america
[–] [email protected] 23 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Prosecute war crimes and expropriation of wealth of war criminals is option four.

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[–] [email protected] 42 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

Here is my 5 point plan

  1. Roses are red
  2. Violet are blue
  3. An apartheid state is not acceptable in the 21st century
  4. So is an ethnostate
  5. One state solution it is
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[–] [email protected] 28 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Incidentally, every pro-zionist comment on the issue begins or ends with “I don't know what a good solution is.” Then why speak?

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[–] [email protected] 44 points 1 year ago

Social democracy is objectively the moderate wing of fascism.

[–] [email protected] 42 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

In my view, the ~~state of Israel has the absolute right to defend itself~~ Jedi are evil

anakin-padme-3 bern-disgust

[–] [email protected] 28 points 1 year ago (2 children)

the jedi were space cops and kinda were evil, actually. just in a banal and less hugo boss way.

[–] [email protected] 25 points 1 year ago (2 children)

My point was to not discuss politics in imaginary fictional setting, but to draw comparison between well-known popular fiction and recent event on how Bernie has turned into Darth Bernard and betrayed his people.

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[–] [email protected] 24 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (4 children)

supporting the CIS (ugh) during the clone wars was harm reduction actually. they used robots for cannon fodder, republic used human clones. the CIS also had better healthcare (general grievous was cool looking ok)

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[–] [email protected] 42 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

He really couched his thesis here

Last night, on the floor of the Senate, I blocked an effort on the part of some Republicans to prevent desperately needed humanitarian aid from the United Nations and other relief agencies from getting to these Palestinians.

In these very difficult times, we cannot turn our backs on these innocent men, women and children who are desperately trying to survive. That is not what this country must ever be about.

If it was just that it would be fine

[–] [email protected] 39 points 1 year ago (1 children)

You have no solidarity with anyone you useless class traitor.

[–] [email protected] 27 points 1 year ago

Solidarity with capitalists, maybe.

[–] [email protected] 38 points 1 year ago (1 children)

2014: Answering question on Israel, Bernie Sanders tells townhall hecklers to ‘shut up!’

Watch the video clip here, remember that this happened in 2014.

I saw it during his first presidential campaign run and it stunned me, but I didn’t say anything at the time because back then we all wanted him to win. Looking back now it had been so obvious all along.

[–] [email protected] 27 points 1 year ago

That was bloodboiling. What a fucking genocidal ghoul. Goes right for ISIS talking points, guess what Bernie what women's rights are there in an open air prison? the right to die? the right to watch your baby drink contaminated water?

[–] [email protected] 38 points 1 year ago (3 children)

Fuck this guy; I can't believe anyone ever thought he was decent.

[–] [email protected] 33 points 1 year ago (1 children)

doomer he might still be the best senator on the issue

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[–] [email protected] 37 points 1 year ago

Old liberals are the worst

[–] [email protected] 36 points 1 year ago (1 children)
[–] [email protected] 24 points 1 year ago (1 children)

where was this 4 years ago, wouldve saved some of us a lot of wasted energy

[–] [email protected] 33 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (3 children)

Bookchin wrote that in 1986. Nineteen fucking eighty fucking six.

[–] bdonvr 30 points 1 year ago (1 children)
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[–] [email protected] 35 points 1 year ago

Disgusting, craven letter from Genocide Bernie, the social fascist.

[–] [email protected] 32 points 1 year ago

social democracy is objectively the moderate wing of fascism

[–] [email protected] 30 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

But in the midst of the terrorism, the missiles and bombs being exploded daily, and a hospital in Gaza being destroyed, there is another humanitarian disaster that is unfolding.

Such wishy-washy ambiguous bullshit. He starts the statement by clearly attributing the "terrorist" attack to Hamas, but doesn't bring himself to say that Israeli is indiscriminately bombing Gaza. Instead the missiles and bomb just "explode".

Who's firing missiles and dropping bombs on Gaza, Bernie? Are they just falling out of the sky?

Today, as a result of an Israeli evacuation order, hundreds of thousands of innocent and desperate people in Gaza are facing inhumane and life-threatening conditions. These are people who have been driven from their homes, who have no food, water, or fuel, who don’t know where they are going or who will accept them or if they will ever again return to their homes. And I would remind you that half of those people are children.

Then he talks about Israeli's insidious evacuation order as if it's the cause of the food and water shortage for just those that evacuated. Bernie, again, who said they weren't going to allow food supply into Gaza and shut off their power and water as well? Did these thing just disappear? Is it just the evacuees who don't have these basic necessities as his statement implies?

[–] [email protected] 30 points 1 year ago (7 children)

Fucking Judas goat. Fuck Bernie soooooo hard. I don't care if he has a good take once a decade. Fuck him. He sold his soul a long time ago

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[–] [email protected] 30 points 1 year ago (1 children)

God damn it Bernie just die while you still have some kind of dignity remaining

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[–] [email protected] 29 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I need to remove that Bernie bumper sticker.

Only problem is i like to park next to the lady with the stronger together bumper sticker

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[–] [email protected] 29 points 1 year ago (1 children)

That hospital, church and innocent people were coming right for them.

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[–] [email protected] 27 points 1 year ago (1 children)

He's just hiding his power level copium

[–] [email protected] 33 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

he was, just not in the way left-libs thought

[–] [email protected] 23 points 1 year ago

This old fuck should keel over and die already

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