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[-] CyborgMarx@hexbear.net 65 points 3 months ago

Some "leftists" are almost as mad that Zohran won than the libs and chuds, it's a funny kind of synchronicity

Meanwhile all I care about is that he triggers the birth of countless more socialists and dismantles THE MOST crippling mindset among the masses "Your politics are cool, but they're not realistic"

Zohran is a blow to capitalist realism, to AIPAC, to the DNC, to leftist book club mentality, it's a shame nobody realizes five years too late we got our wish and the door is finally open for mass radicalization, at least in New York City

[-] glimmer_twin@hexbear.net 12 points 3 months ago

I wish I could have this kind of optimism about a succdem, lol

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[-] TankieTanuki@hexbear.net 64 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago)

I remember joyously watching the press conferences with his transition team. I was excited for him to tackle the financial crisis.

Years later I learned that he had gotten his whole cabinet pre-approved by Citi Bank. Tackling Wall Street indeed.

[-] 30_to_50_Feral_PAWGs@hexbear.net 35 points 3 months ago

I mean, you probably don't pick biden-alert as your fucking VP unless a bunch of good ol' boys from MBNA, Bank of AmeriKKKa, Citi, Merrick, Wells Fargo, and Capital One got together and hauled you to a smoky backroom where they show you video footage of the JFK assassination taken from an angle that the public has never seen before

spoilerobama-dronespeech-l

[-] Dimmer06@hexbear.net 48 points 3 months ago

I give it three months into his term before people are posting lenin-heisenberg again

[-] thefunkycomitatus@hexbear.net 11 points 3 months ago

There will be a post within the next week declaring that the site has a problem. There will be 400 comments. Someone will be banned. Someone will complain about someone being banned.

[-] Super_Lumalo@hexbear.net 43 points 3 months ago

I don't really care for Mamdani in a way that expects him to change things, I care for him for what he means for proper communists in New York and the whole US. People ought to use him and his success to further actual socialism.

[-] spectre@hexbear.net 7 points 3 months ago

His success and his failure!

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[-] Cat_Daddy@hexbear.net 40 points 3 months ago

Because they're sniffing their own farts over Mamdani winning and Prop. 50 passing.

[-] glimmer_twin@hexbear.net 49 points 3 months ago

Didn’t “the Democrats” fight this guy the whole way?

[-] Keld@hexbear.net 51 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago)

They did and that's why it's funny he won. He's proposing five municipal grocery stores and stacking the housing board and the political establishment went spare. He's not even proposing sewer socialism.

But i still enjoy seeing the people who lost today lose.

[-] robot_dog_with_gun@hexbear.net 19 points 3 months ago

kinda. Jim Clyburn flipped after the primary and a bunch of the other ghouls dragged their feet all the way to last night, including Chuck never endorsing Mamdani and presumably voting for Cuomo.

[-] SevenSkalls@hexbear.net 7 points 3 months ago

I don't think Hakeem Jefferies ever endorsed him either lol

[-] thefunkycomitatus@hexbear.net 31 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago)

"We did this!"

Also this is the part where all those "Obama called him", "Bernie had a meeting", stories come into play. It's proof that the Democrats helped him all along! Funny how that happened.

[-] miz@hexbear.net 8 points 3 months ago
[-] VILenin@hexbear.net 23 points 3 months ago

Prop 50 passing

Oh boy I wonder what the inevitable SC decision is going to be. No worries though I’m sure Sotomayor will write an epic clapback

[-] FunkyStuff@hexbear.net 20 points 3 months ago

What will be the Puerto Rican equivalent of Ruthkanda forever? In 20 years I'm gonna get that mournful message in my family whatsapp group.

[-] VILenin@hexbear.net 8 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago)

Just told my 10yo daughter about #SS in the work camp soylent distribution center. She would have had tears in her eyes if she wasn't too dehydrated to cry. And then she did the Wakanda pose and said "#Soniakanda forever". I couldn't see who was in the panopticon but I assume they must have tried to cry too. When Frau Bondi hears of this, I'm sure she will be touched enough to increase our soylent portions by 1.25% -- which is the sort of incrementalism that I can celebrate.

/uj My guess is we'll probably see white soccer moms doing racist "spicy latina" shit for weeks on end. But if any hexbears can come up with a Puerto Rican localization of Ruthkanda then gold-communist

[-] Cat_Daddy@hexbear.net 20 points 3 months ago

Keep in mind that while both of these things are most likely objectively good, neither will do anything to stop the genocide in Palestine

[-] krolden@lemmy.ml 9 points 3 months ago

I didn't know the mayor of new York has any control over that

[-] Cat_Daddy@hexbear.net 10 points 3 months ago

I never said he did. The Democrats fought Mamdani the whole way, now they're sucking themselves off because he won, and they should have spent that energy stopping the genocide.

[-] MaxOS@hexbear.net 28 points 3 months ago

first as thing then as thing
curious-marx

[-] robot_dog_with_gun@hexbear.net 26 points 3 months ago

NYC will improve slightly but not as much as we want. Maybe some smaller places will get some copycats who won't be asked about international issues. that's about it.

oh, also dick cheney died, that was a shame it took so long.

This is much different bro

A Mayor who even says That he would arrest Netanyahu in the USA is such a massive change

The fact it’s the mayor of New York makes it even bigger

[-] FunkyStuff@hexbear.net 35 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago)

Obama promised he would shut down Guantanamo Bay.

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[-] glimmer_twin@hexbear.net 12 points 3 months ago

Hope you’re right

[-] ColombianLenin@hexbear.net 11 points 3 months ago

Didn't he walk that back?

And if he didn't, I won't be surprised when he does

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[-] SickSemper@hexbear.net 8 points 3 months ago

He walked that back. He said he wouldn’t break the law or create new ones, which is as good as saying he wouldn’t arrest Netanyahu.

[-] xiaohongshu@hexbear.net 7 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago)

Of all the things he said, honestly this has got to be the stupidest one and will 100% have to walk back.

Nobody - I repeat, nobody - arrests the head of a nuclear-armed state. That is simply never going to happen, let alone the mayor of a city.

It is the equivalent of those NAFO fantasy where they get to arrest Putin when he visits foreign countries. Nice promise but never going to happen. Stick to the promises that you can actually fulfill.

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[-] electric_nan@lemmy.ml 24 points 3 months ago

I knew Obama wasn't going to change anything, and I didn't vote for him, but I did go to DC for his inauguration. It was historic, and it inspired a lot of people. The energy that day was unforgettable.

I also don't have any illusions about Mamdani, but I think it's rad that he opened his victory speech with a Debs quote. That a dude like this can win (handily) in NY, says something significant about our historical moment

[-] stink@lemmygrad.ml 18 points 3 months ago

The people at that Yemeni wedding were so inspired by him, too. All for a political play to show he was "tough on terror".

[-] electric_nan@lemmy.ml 13 points 3 months ago

I get it. He is absolutely a war criminal. At the time of his inauguration, he hadn't ordered any war crimes yet. I knew he would, but he also signified something important in that moment to a lot of people.

[-] xiaohongshu@hexbear.net 24 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago)

10 years after Bernie first ran his presidential campaign, the American left finally gets to celebrate the election of its first socialist mayor. (With the exception of AOC, whose relation with the left had soured just a few years in)

I’ll leave you to decide whether this is good progress or not.

But what is clear is that this is nowhere near the “significance” of Obama’s presidential win. Not even close.

At one point, Bernie boasted a million volunteers nationwide during his primary campaign. Have those energy dissipated into nowhere? Or did it remain latent and about to be reinvigorated after Mamdani’s victory? Are there plans to run 100s and 1000s of socialist candidates all over the country? If so, what are the organized movements that sustain these effort? How are they organized, especially against hostile state apparatuses? Can they translate electoral victories into palpable political actions? What are their strategies toward taking broader state power?

These are the important questions to ask. And if no such political movement emerges in the wake of Mamdani, nothing will change.

[-] HamManBad@hexbear.net 19 points 3 months ago

the American left finally gets to celebrate the election of its first socialist mayor.

One of the most interesting aspects of Milwaukee is the fact that it's the only major American city to have ever elected three Socialist mayors

[-] XxFemboy_Stalin_420_69xX@hexbear.net 16 points 3 months ago

it isn't nyc so it doesn't count. nyc is the greatest and only city in america and indeed the world

[-] HamManBad@hexbear.net 11 points 3 months ago

I know you're joking but NYC Mayor Dinkins was technically in the DSA so the point still stands

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[-] LeninWeave@hexbear.net 12 points 3 months ago

the American left finally gets to celebrate the election of its first socialist mayor

There have been socialist mayors in America before, even recently. Kshama Sawant is one example.

[-] Chump@hexbear.net 10 points 3 months ago

I thought she was just city council?

[-] AOCapitulator@hexbear.net 7 points 3 months ago

This is correct

[-] Enjoyer_of_Games@hexbear.net 22 points 3 months ago

I remember thinking the world was gonna change. Not in a revolutionary way but in an "arc of history bends towards justice" kinda way. Fuck me for being even that optimistic right omori-furious

[-] mistermodal@lemmy.ml 22 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago)

It takes a truely demented American to obsess over elections instead of, say, sports gambling at this point. Have some self-respect and buy the executive scamcoins. There's not even any money in this bizarro fantasy world certain Felix reply guys live in where there is an internal democrat civil war between Hilldawg and Obamna. As many people with less-pockmarked brains than I have pointed out, the latter had a much better record as an activist than Mamdani. It's just that our times are too unsubtle for even slickos like Barack and Zohran has to go around doing Don't Worry I Promise I Am Sheepdogging These Assholes press conferences with the kind liberal Zionists next to whatever placard

At first I resented the discourse at all but now I realize that Americans birthing another one of these creatures with social media tulpamancy is an opportunity to educate people on the paucity of mere wage + rent stabilization without land reform (the kind that gets you in the black book) and other unspeakables

[-] h4x0r@lemmy.dbzer0.com 11 points 3 months ago

If you've never repackaged and sold the same old shit as 'hope and change', well, that's why you're a fucking poor.

That being said, if you don't think today's results reflect a significant shift you're blind. The republican strategy to racist shitpost their way to absolute power has pushed society further left than any attention seeking would be icon ever could.

[-] Chana@hexbear.net 32 points 3 months ago

The right racistly shitposted their way to control of all 3 branches of the US government in response to Obama, a slick neoliberal that avoided blame for anything bad that happened (among liberals).

Material conditions are degrading in the imperial core. This has been a bipartisan effort as lackeys of haute capitalist forces. A rediscovery of some version the left was/is essentially inevitable due to this develipment, but it is still entirely cooptable by fascistic tendencies in this godforsaken country, in part exemplified by the impetus on this very site for some users to call basic (US) anti-warism an "ultra" position because the flavor of the day said something chauvinist about Venezuela.

Imagine what naked American fascism would actually look like. It is still largely hidden, it's wrapped up in its "polite imperialism" vestments, sometimes "rude imperialism" nowadays with some dog whistles thrown in. But think about what they would coopt, what lines they would cross, and who they would pull and what levers they would use.

Now imagine what opposing them would look like.

[-] thefunkycomitatus@hexbear.net 28 points 3 months ago

Nah we did the blue wave thing under Trump 1. If it was a significant shift we wouldn't have gotten Trump 2. How are you even judging this as a shift? Nothing has happened yet. Social media makes everything seem monumental and historical. We won't know if this is a significant shift until later.

Also don't use "blind" that way. Blind people can understand history and theory enough to adequately contextualize today's events. However, people with working eyes get a lot of stuff wrong.

[-] companero@hexbear.net 10 points 3 months ago

If you keep electing people who call themselves democratic socialists (not Obama obviously), eventually you will get a Hugo Chávez.

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