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[–] [email protected] 69 points 1 year ago (2 children)

calls to violence originating from the Lemmygrad instance.

Death to Amerikkka

[–] [email protected] 42 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Unlimited death on the first world

[–] [email protected] 32 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Lemmy dot world? More like Lemmy dot first world.

Ba dum tss

[–] [email protected] 40 points 1 year ago

international-community-1international-community-2

The world according to Lemmy dot world users

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[–] [email protected] 68 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

Totally coincidentally with a lot of .world coming out as supporters of zionist genocide and their narratives crumbling in real time as their parrot it after Netanyahu, Biden and people like this.

[–] [email protected] 36 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I thought it was kind of funny how easy it was arguing against them over there this week.

[–] [email protected] 37 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

Cognitive dissonance between the bottom line of their "leftism" and the bootlicking was showing somewhat. Some of .worlders even had decent takes in some threads. Hey, maybe this is why they suddenly defederated, they seen some of their accounts molting liberalism?

[–] [email protected] 26 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I talked with one very nice one who came in arguing that Hamas was the devil, and came out saying they "have a lot to think about now".

I honestly think this is it.

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[–] [email protected] 63 points 1 year ago (3 children)

As someone whose main instance is .world, I kinda expected this was coming ever since Hexbear got insta-defederated but I'm still disappointed. Anyway, that's why I signed up here.

That said, I noticed a massive disconnect between the ridiculous claims people make about ther interactions with Lemmygrad users and my own experience. They really will consider themselves as the most reasonable progressives ever and then claim harassment when their lib bullshit is called out.

[–] [email protected] 38 points 1 year ago

Glad to have you!

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[–] [email protected] 58 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Lemmy.world will always take immediate action to remove and ban any posts or comments that incite violence or propagate hatred.

Most of the .world comments I've seen here fit that criteria.

[–] [email protected] 32 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

It's like theyre trying to push the limits bc they know they're mostly privileged kids and lib university students. Just a constant competition for the Boldest Opinion, except they're never allowed to tie it to an actual cause (unless its the worst one possible)

[–] [email protected] 52 points 1 year ago

Today, after careful consideration and evaluation of recent events, we have decided to continue smelling our own farts

[–] [email protected] 48 points 1 year ago (5 children)

Oh man how will I sleep tonight knowing this

[–] [email protected] 28 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I'm so distraught, I don't think I will even get out of bed tomorrow.

[–] [email protected] 26 points 1 year ago (1 children)
[–] [email protected] 22 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Lol

Lmao posted to the Communism community. How is this about communism? It isn’t. It’s just that to them, everything is about communism.

Everything is.

But also I just didn't know where to post it. I guess genzedong would've worked.

I'm somewhere between savagely elated that they've finally admitted they can't hang, and a little bummed that our reach is shorter. Not too bummed tho

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[–] [email protected] 46 points 1 year ago

So, opposing zionism is where their limit is. Good to know, I guess...

I won't even bother with the hate speech nonsense. Same ol' "for thee, but not for me".

[–] [email protected] 45 points 1 year ago

Fuck Israel. Eat shit.

[–] [email protected] 45 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

The big brained morons at lemmy dot world do realise that the majority of the world recognises the state of Palestine and considers what Israel is doing as apartheid, right? The world is not just the US and Europe. Yet again Lemmy dot world takes a stance that the majority of the world is in disagreement with.

clown-to-clown-communicationclown-to-clown-conversation

[–] [email protected] 43 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Even the statement mirrors the corporate style used on Reddit. Unqualified use of inclusive, violence, hatred, etc.

[–] [email protected] 40 points 1 year ago (5 children)

They want to be reddit so bad. Try old.lemmy.world in your browser URL bar.

[–] [email protected] 27 points 1 year ago (1 children)
[–] [email protected] 22 points 1 year ago

I just did and yeah yuck 🤮.

I

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[–] [email protected] 39 points 1 year ago (2 children)

What "hate speech" are these guys talking about? Hasn't our instance documented tons of instances of hate speech on THEIR website?

[–] [email protected] 31 points 1 year ago

Saying "genocide is bad" is hate speech to a fascists.

[–] [email protected] 24 points 1 year ago (5 children)

Are we still on hexbear though?

[–] [email protected] 36 points 1 year ago

A better, cleaner hexgrad experience for all comrades!

[–] [email protected] 22 points 1 year ago
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[–] [email protected] 38 points 1 year ago

"Hate speech"

Israel is an illegal, illegitimate, settler-colonial project built upon genocide of indigenous Palestinians, the continued oppression of Palestinians, land theft, and really too much else to put into words.

Oh no, I did a hate speech!

Fucking losers and baby-brain morons over there who should've stayed on their hugbox website. Nothing I said there is glorifying the murder of literally anyone, but if you want to know why anyone got murdered, it's very simple: lock people in a giant prison, starve them, bomb them, shoot them, deprive them of every necessity of life, and treat them as less than animals... and eventually they will say "fuck it. I'm going to die here anyway. I will make my oppressors feel a sliver of the pain I've felt." And there you have it. Pretending or lying or focusing on recent small-in-comparison deaths of Israelis is just further attempts to dehumanize and justify genocide of Palestinians.

Mourning is absolutely fine. But when your "mourning" becomes "these animals did this!" That's no longer ok or fine. You don't get to blame the oppressed for fighting for freedom or for fighting to just make the oppressors feel bad. I know people get assmad over this fact, but the fact is, every person living in "Israel" is oppressing the people in Gaza (specifically, and elsewhere too). That makes them not "civilians" anymore than Germans feeding the Nazi forces were civilians. You can argue laws and morality all day long, but when it comes down to it, they all participated in it to some degree even by remaining in Israel when other options were available. Too many people want to play the "but my grandparents came here" card, which I understand to a degree. They didn't ask to be born there, etc. But it is their responsibility to end the ongoing genocide, and if they don't act to end it, these recent actions by Hamas showed the consequences of inaction. And if they genocide more, there's only going to be more Israeli deaths. If the people truly value life on both sides or even just their own lives/families, then end the fucking apartheid state, reform Palestine and dissolve Israel. Admit that what was done there was an atrocity and reparations are due. None of this is saying "kill the Israeli Jews!" as those morons on reddit and world would claim. My solution, the one Palestinians and Arabs and many others worldwide want, is the one that leads to actual equitable peace, no more wars. Standing against ending apartheid, saying "they have a right to be mad" about Israelis, etc. is all in the opposite direction. No, I'm sorry, they do NOT have a right to be mad on a state level. Individually? Ok. Who cares. This isn't about individuals being pissed off their baby died. This is about preventing anymore babies from dying and if you're a sick piece of shit that thinks 1000 Israelis dying justifies bombing Gaza into nothing. Well, I can't say, or shouldn't say what should happen to people who say that.

[–] [email protected] 37 points 1 year ago

The admins will now be struck by a feeling of immense boredom as there will no longer a wave after wave of reports related to liberals in their inboxes.

[–] [email protected] 34 points 1 year ago

Oh, no! It is such a tragedy to see reddit logo 2.0 parting ways with us. I cri evry tiem.

[–] [email protected] 34 points 1 year ago (4 children)

Meh. I hope that they have fun without this. They clearly would have benefitted from it.

I almost want to laugh seeing them unjokingly using the term ‘totalitarian’, which is usually a clue that somebody hasn’t been keeping up with modern historical scholarship. If they were writing in the 20th century then I could understand that, but being a totalitarian theorist in the 2020s should be pretty embarrassing.

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[–] CCPIsBased 33 points 1 year ago

Nothing of value was lost

[–] [email protected] 32 points 1 year ago

Finally, they'll leave us alone instead of shitting up our threads lol

[–] [email protected] 31 points 1 year ago (2 children)
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[–] [email protected] 31 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

Most of their communities were blocked since months, that’s why you didn’t see much of them.

They finally admitted that they were doing a soft defederation from Lemmygrad all along. When I still had an account on that shithole, the GenZedong comm was mysteriously missing from search results and they never said they were blocking comms.

Anyway, good riddance to storm.front

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[–] [email protected] 30 points 1 year ago (1 children)

My mental health just got a +2 modifier. No more wading through heaps of lib shit threads just to find hexbear ones👍

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[–] [email protected] 29 points 1 year ago (5 children)

For most Crackers who haven't seen life outside their small circles of privilege. They think that they are working against "incitement of violence" by censoring protesters because they happened to irritate their blissful liberal circle jerk of a life which is far from acknowledging the distress of the downtrodden Third World.

One must imagine the ignorance deeply imbued with such people who think that succumbing to the Bourgeois Humanist Fetishes is what Peace is. What they do in reality is just the opposite. By promoting the obstruction of justice, by standing right on the path of the struggle of the oppressed against the oppressors in the name of peace. They rightfully collaborate with the oppressors. Justifying the cause of the oppressor.

Where was the peace when Israeli settlers were conducting ethnic cleansing just a few days before the Al-Aqsa Flood? Where was the peace when the Israeli Occupation Force was shooting Palestinian children everyday? Where was the peace when Palestinians were being forced out of their homes, their homes burnt and them locked in cages? Why is it that the day the collective rage of the Palestinians boiled over do the Settlers wake up, open their Instagram accounts and sloganize against Terrorism. Where were they to sloganize against Terrorism when Terrorism was being conducted by the Zionists against a native people?

The Hamas may have committed a few excesses. But they have 0 blame for punishing the settlers, for who are we to blame them for struggling against such severe Occupation?

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[–] [email protected] 29 points 1 year ago

Safe and welcoming for who honk-enraged

[–] [email protected] 28 points 1 year ago

And nothing of value was lost.

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[–] [email protected] 25 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (3 children)

Hey what I thought would happen shortly after they defederated hexbear finally happened! i was banned on .world for arguing in that thread for “trolling” anyways.

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[–] [email protected] 24 points 1 year ago (1 children)
[–] [email protected] 25 points 1 year ago (9 children)

Can't even provide examples of the hate speech they're referring to.

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[–] [email protected] 22 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

Surprised it took them this long, they never let us federate in the first place

Also why did they have to be so indirect, they could’ve just said “red fash made fun of warcrimeland wahhh”

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[–] [email protected] 22 points 1 year ago

Huh, my lenmy.world account can't access this refuge

fantastic!

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