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[–] [email protected] 38 points 1 year ago

"Hate speech"

Israel is an illegal, illegitimate, settler-colonial project built upon genocide of indigenous Palestinians, the continued oppression of Palestinians, land theft, and really too much else to put into words.

Oh no, I did a hate speech!

Fucking losers and baby-brain morons over there who should've stayed on their hugbox website. Nothing I said there is glorifying the murder of literally anyone, but if you want to know why anyone got murdered, it's very simple: lock people in a giant prison, starve them, bomb them, shoot them, deprive them of every necessity of life, and treat them as less than animals... and eventually they will say "fuck it. I'm going to die here anyway. I will make my oppressors feel a sliver of the pain I've felt." And there you have it. Pretending or lying or focusing on recent small-in-comparison deaths of Israelis is just further attempts to dehumanize and justify genocide of Palestinians.

Mourning is absolutely fine. But when your "mourning" becomes "these animals did this!" That's no longer ok or fine. You don't get to blame the oppressed for fighting for freedom or for fighting to just make the oppressors feel bad. I know people get assmad over this fact, but the fact is, every person living in "Israel" is oppressing the people in Gaza (specifically, and elsewhere too). That makes them not "civilians" anymore than Germans feeding the Nazi forces were civilians. You can argue laws and morality all day long, but when it comes down to it, they all participated in it to some degree even by remaining in Israel when other options were available. Too many people want to play the "but my grandparents came here" card, which I understand to a degree. They didn't ask to be born there, etc. But it is their responsibility to end the ongoing genocide, and if they don't act to end it, these recent actions by Hamas showed the consequences of inaction. And if they genocide more, there's only going to be more Israeli deaths. If the people truly value life on both sides or even just their own lives/families, then end the fucking apartheid state, reform Palestine and dissolve Israel. Admit that what was done there was an atrocity and reparations are due. None of this is saying "kill the Israeli Jews!" as those morons on reddit and world would claim. My solution, the one Palestinians and Arabs and many others worldwide want, is the one that leads to actual equitable peace, no more wars. Standing against ending apartheid, saying "they have a right to be mad" about Israelis, etc. is all in the opposite direction. No, I'm sorry, they do NOT have a right to be mad on a state level. Individually? Ok. Who cares. This isn't about individuals being pissed off their baby died. This is about preventing anymore babies from dying and if you're a sick piece of shit that thinks 1000 Israelis dying justifies bombing Gaza into nothing. Well, I can't say, or shouldn't say what should happen to people who say that.