who will survive longer: me or the american state (i will)
number of days until hexbear appears in the congressional record just ticked down again. nazis get
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Are they sending a representative to Gavin Newsom’s podcast so he can agree with them?
Nazi shit
i think they're trying to push us to crash out (in the classical sense) and give them evidence for their trans shooter psyop
Killing Kirk really did just speed up this violent crackdown on the left into overdrive.
Did it though? If Kirk wasn't assassinated, they would have just invented a pretense. IMO they're just doing what they have planned for all this time.
It's both. This is what they wanted to do anyway. The plan was clearly already mostly drafted and agreed to. But they needed the right moment. The murder was that moment.
If the same murder happened in 72 days, these things happening now wouldn't be happening until 72 days from now.
But they needed the right moment. The murder was that moment.
That's kinda my point though: they could have simply manufactured "the right moment". Hell, they could have even presenting literally nothing as the right moment. They have control over the propaganda machines.
If the same murder happened in 72 days, these things happening now wouldn't be happening until 72 days from now.
Yeah I'm not with you on the timeline here. Maybe a week at best. The capitalists are quickly remembering that what they can do to us in their system is functionally independent from the will of its subjects.
for all we know, they did manufacture this, or this kid is a patsy and there was an israeli sniper or some wild shit, who knows!
What we do know is that something happening was inevitable
I feel everyone is forgetting the detrans neonazi school shooter. Like they were talking about a lot if this stuff already in response to that. This was just an even better excuse.
Funny thing is it's a worse excuse becauae the killer is cis, but it's a flashier headline because it was a celeb that got killed
The Charlie Kirk assassination is becoming our Reichstag fire. This is just the dumbest timeline.
If only we voted blue :(
I literally warned about this before the election, only to be ridiculed by half of the users here.
People here really have no idea how fast fascism can take hold of a society.
Kamala Harris would have done this as well, she just would have blamed bipartisanship
Your mistake continues to be believing Biden would have slowed down anything in this regard.
Also you can take your L for supporting the person who started the genocide if that makes you feel better about being "correct".
I never said anything about “supporting” Biden or Harris. I am very well aware of the genocide argument and that these are the ghouls here.
Just the other day, someone argued with me that Trump’s accelerationism would somehow be beneficial to the left for recruitment, because people/libs are easier to be radicalized under Trump while they love to brunch under Democrats.
Yes, for a prepared left that has the capacity to take advantage of the situation. But the American left is NOT prepared. They need time to organize. And 4 years is 4 years.
Also, if your strategy to rally people to your cause relies on minorities paying the price (and perhaps even with their lives), then you have a serious problem.
I never said anything about “supporting” Biden or Harris.
Telling people to vote for someone is like the dictionary definition of support. I legitimately don't understand what y'all think "support" means. Wanting to suck them off? Treating everything they say as gospel? Thinking they'll go to heaven in the afterlife?
I genuinely don't know, because in my book, supporting someone is when you provide them with, you know, support. For example, in the form of a vote or in the form of trying to convince others to vote for them.
What you described is a legitimate approach - it’s the Trotskyists view of the world.
The Trots (Chen Duxiu faction) welcomed and encouraged the Imperial Japanese invasion because they believed that the upheaval and destruction caused by the Japanese army will provoke the masses to rise up and overthrow the bourgeois Nationalist government.
This earned them the “Han traitor” moniker (汉奸) by Mao, perhaps the worst insult you can ever receive from him.
Despite the Nationalists murdering hundreds of thousands of communists just the years prior, Mao decided that a united front with the Nationalists against the Japanese invaders was still the correct path to take. And guess what? It turned out to be beneficial for the Communist Party, who would eventually overthrow the Nationalists during the Liberation War despite being massively outnumbered and outgunned.
This is why Mao is so revered in China, despite his mistakes and flaws. His ability to understand the gravity of the situation and see the entire picture in a grand scheme of world events remain unparalleled to this day.
If the Trots have had their way, China would have succumbed and turned into a Japanese colony. It’s very important to realize that if things had taken just a slightly different turn, the communists would not have won in China.
No one is welcoming this fascist train. Like, I understand your disdain for the American left but the American left is not cheering this on in the hopes of some glorious revolution.
What we are doing is sharpening our knives as best we can because this is going to get hot fast.
I welcome the democrats to act as your nationalists and actually put some metal into the fight. At which point, I will side with them.
The reason that there was an alliance to be formed at all was that the communists existed as their own, separate political party.
The relationship between Mao and the nationalists, and the lessons we can take from it, are more complex than this "always capitulate to the lesser evil" nonsense. There were several times when the two sides formed a united front and several times that such agreements fell apart or were betrayed. If the lesson from Mao is simply capitulation to the lesser evil, Mao would have just joined the KMT and abandoned any sort of radical positions to that might have caused contention.
Of course, accelerationism is stupid nonsense as it always has been.
Edit to add a thought: the communists at that time had just endured the long march, and the leadership was tested and battle-hardened. When they said "revolution later" they meant "revolution later." In contrast, in Europe, there were a bunch of nominally socialist parties and when they said "revolution later," they meant, "revolution never," because they were full of opportunists. Imagine if the SDP in Germany was like, "Well, it finally happened, the conditions are right for revolution so we're doing a revolution now." No, if you want a temporary alliance with the Democrats, it needs to be actually temporary, with a clearly set objective and end conditions. Otherwise it's just liberalism with extra steps.
Just the other day, someone argued with me that Trump’s accelerationism would somehow be beneficial to the left for recruitment, because people/libs are easier to be radicalized under Trump while they love to brunch under Democrats.
It's not wrong to say that this acceleration from the government creates new opportunities for leftist organizing. That's not saying Trump is good, it's just an assessment of the situation. And I see it borne out all the time, the interest in has grown by an order of magnitude since his election. We have to deal with the ups and downs of where we're at right now.
Yeah I reject the idea that 4 years of Biden would give the left “time to organize,” democrats are counter revolutionary and possible organizing subjects tune out out of necessity/go back to brunch once blue is back in office. 2020 had simultaneous crises and they were mollified by liberal cooptation. Families separated, kids in cages, police murder, genocide in Palestine, nobody flocked to those banners because Biden was in charge. Is this accelerationism? It seems like an evaluation of reality
I'm not even making a comparative Dems vs Reps claim and I'm certainly not saying we wanted Trump so that we could do accelerationism. I'm hust saying that under Trump, popular discontent is substantially heightened, classs consciousness is on the rise, and radical organizing is quickly getting bigger and stronger. Things are accelerating in both repression and resistance. Being prepared starts with having that understanding.
Yeah nobody here was arguing Trump would be better, just that it was an inevitability and an opportunity
And not a done deal, either! This is an opportunity, but it's a narrow one that the movement could totally fumble or that maybe never fully materializes. But the chance is there and we have to act on it. Moralizing about what might have been under Kamala, or maybe we could be more prepared, or whatever - irrelevant. We are Marxists. We work from the real material conditions that currently exist.
4 years to prepare? Not even 400 years are enough with objectives like radicalizing liberals. The working class needs to self-organize and link up, radicalizing liberals usually means convincing middle class Democrat voters to larp as socdems. Maybe they'll even start a party to wreck working class organizing and end up endorsing the Dems anyway in the next elections. And as soon as the "imminent threat to democracy" is gone these radicalized liberals who never stopped being property owners, small time bosses etc will go straight back to business as usual and try their best to be good capitalist career politicians.
It's already been beneficial for recruitment. 40 rifle holders at the last range day.
While i do agree somewhat, it was Biden and Harris' choice not to pivot on Gaza and not do economic populist messaging. This site had no power to influence the election.
They sent Bill Clinton and Josh Shapiro to Michigan to talk about "Judea and Samaria". Every half decent messaging like calling Republicans weird or price controls were immediately abandoned.
I am well aware of all that. I was pushing back against an increasingly prevalent idea that Trump, or the crumbling state of the empire, would be good for the left.
Not if you don’t even have an organized left in America.
We’ll see how the left organizes as ICE is openly kidnapping, torturing and deporting minorities under broad daylight.
We’ll see how the left is going to organize as trans people are increasingly stripped of their rights and face open persecution by fascist thugs.
We’ll see if this accelerationism is truly beneficial to the left.
As I said to another user here, if your plan to rally people to your cause relies on minorities paying the price, then perhaps there is a serious problem here.
"terrorist" has turned into a meaningless buzz word, like "woke"
~~The boy who cried wolf.~~
The Trump who cried terrorist.
Stay safe comrades. My heart aches for all of you
So. Functionally, what will that mean for us? Like, will this be some kind of niding-esque thing where anyone can report us for being trans and we get arrested? Or a busted taillight thing, where they probably wont pull you over for it but if youre doing 45 in a 30 theyll pull you over and add a busted taillight charge to the ticket? Or something else?
Basically, how fucked are we if this happens?
Edit: niding is probably the wrong word, since they were more outside the law.
Exactly, it's gonna be a multiplier if you get caught up in anything else. The busted tail light is a great analogy
All trans people are khamas
US is behaving exactly the same as Israel.
"The Trump administration first created the NVE designation earlier this year to replace the Biden-era label “Anti-Authority and Anti-Government Violent Extremists” (AGAAVE), created to categorize January 6 rioters and other right-wing groups."
Praying trump doesn't follow through with this like he hasn't with everything else in his life
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