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melon is still miffed that Grimes thinks Hasan is hot
Im sorry I thought this was about Fantano
I can’t tell if I like him more or less after the Adam Friedland interview. He seems like a thoughtful guy but also incredibly unpleasant to be around lol.
You just described an art critic.
His personality is often fairly pretentious and this includes times when he doesn't know what he's talking about. Funny music review man could use a comfy chill pill.
Chud kills chud. Left at fault.
Maybe a libbed up/parasocial take but I'm genuinely going to be surprised if he makes it to the end of the year. Yeah I'm irritated at him too for trying to cozy up to the liberal establishment and distance himself from Kirk's assassination, especially with the NYT shit piece he just wrote, but IMO if I had his money I'd be booking the soonest flight to literally anywhere else, but he's too stubborn to do that.
It's clear to me that whatever people Hasan tried to reach with the NYT shit piece are simply not interested in his perspective and will happily piss on his grave should something happen to him. And once again he's pissing off his left flank by appealing to people who want all of us dead.
Like Hasan is a reformist IMO and he's reaping reformist prizes that any revolutionary socialist could have seen coming from a mile away...but I don't want to see him get hurt.
That seems a bit harsh imho. Hassan has credibility because he's so damn analytical and not immediately convinced by what the story is, Hassan take my energy.
Hassan has credibility because he's so damn analytical
This must be a different Hasan than the one i'm thinking of, the one who three years later still keeps insisting that Russia is the bad guy in NATO's Ukraine proxy war.
most people even on hexbear do the putin bad routine so I think blaming Hasan when supporting Russia (saying russia isnt evil counts as supporting Russia to the west) is a legit ban worthy offense us is a bit harsh
Like come on be fair, he would literally be banned from Twitch and most platforms if he articulated even half the takes we have here about the Ukraine War
Then he should get off Twitch. There are other platforms.
This is the same excuse opportunists always use. But the reality is simple:
Either he is really this dumb and believes the imperialist lies. Or he is lying to his audience in order to protect his revenue stream.
Either way the result is the same. The massive audience that listens to him hears the same imperialist narrative from him as they get from the western media about the conflict.
Then he should get off Twitch. There are other platforms.
The loudest PRO-PALESTINIAN leftist in America should sacrifice his platform for the sake of Russian honor? How about NAH
Either he is really this dumb and believes the imperialist lies. Or he is lying to his audience in order to protect his revenue stream.
He explains the history and perfidy NATO every time the subject is brought up, may not be good enough for us, but it sours NATO in the minds of many libs who listen to him, it's more an acceptable in terms of the role he plays as a pipeline
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To be fair Russia is A bad guy in the war. Unfortunately, there is no good guy in this war, so please don't take that as a Ukraine/US good type of slop
How are they a bad guy? They are defending themselves against imperialist encroachment and fighting against a murderous Nazi regime.
For the first time since the end of the USSR a non-Western power is openly confronting the collective West and winning, both militarily and economically. They have shown the entire world what a paper tiger NATO is, which in turn emboldens others to stand up to the imperialists instead of cowering in fear.
They are liberating an oppressed people from fascism while at the same time depleting NATO arsenals that would otherwise be used to murder people all across the global south, costing the West billions and trapping them in a losing quagmire from which they cannot escape. And last but not least they are keeping the US distracted and buying China time to be even better prepared for any future confrontation in the Pacific.
All of these things are objectively good from an anti-imperialist perspective.
Ah yes, the sterling and unassailable anti-imperialism of... checks notes ...Vladimir Putin's Russia. I am sorry man but what?
Most sides in most wars are bad. Just because they are fighting your current enemy doesn't make them good. It makes them, at best, a lesser evil and an ally of convenience. If todays Russia had the global position to do so, they would create their own version of Nato and it would be just as imperialist as Nato is. Just because they used to be cool 40 years ago, doesn't make them cool now.
If todays Russia had the global position to do so, they would create their own version of Nato and it would be just as imperialist as Nato is
"If Russia's historical and material conditions were different, it would be different."
This is what happens when ZPoster gets banned (again).
Ukrainian-nazi-NATO defenders should be banned on site IMO. Just like we should ban anyone taking the middle ground on Israel. Or the middle ground on bigotry.
One side in all cases is objectively correct and it's highly suspicious "leftists" years into this conflict are still using talking points straight from the Pentagon.
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If todays Russia had the global position to do so, they would create their own version of Nato and it would be just as imperialist as Nato is.
so making things up counts as analysis now?
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It doesn't matter what they would do, we can speculate all day about intentions and alternate universes. All that matters is what they are doing right now in the real world that we live in. Russia is allied with China, Iran, the DPRK, Venezuela, Cuba, Nicaragua, Mali, Burkina Faso, etc. All targets of US imperialism. They support and are supported by all socialist or socialist adjacent countries.
The fact is that at the moment Russia is one of the biggest anti-imperialist forces in the world, and certainly the one doing most of the heavy lifting in terms of actually militarily taking on the imperialists and their proxies. They are militarily supporting anti-imperialist governments all over the world. They are killing more fascists each day than anyone else on the planet. And they are second only to China in their contribution to upending US hegemony.
If February 2022 didn't happen we would be living in a very different world today, one in which US imperialism would still be in a much stronger position. The SMO has been and continues to be, objectively, a historic game changer and immensely positive contribution to the global anti-imperialist cause. Vladimir Putin's personal ideological inclinations don't change these factual realities. He has no choice but to act according to the geopolitical circumstances that Russia finds itself in.
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Russia is not fighting a war of liberation, it is a war for regional strategic purposes. If it were about liberating the ethnic Russians oppressed by Ukraine they would not be so happy with a slow churning meat grinder approach, they would do what the west does and destroy country-wide infrastructural. The war is about taking out Ukraine as a threat, a forward base for NATO interests. That they will increasingly provide security for the people of Donbas is good.
We critically support Russia against UA because they're US/NATO pawns that were doing preliminary ethnic cleansing and being used to poke Russia, and because we usually live in Russophobic countries where absurd lies about the war prevail, but Russia is still a capitalist country that uses its military for its own interests, not anti-fascism.
If it were about liberating the ethnic Russians oppressed by Ukraine they would not be so happy with a slow churning meat grinder approach, they would do what the west does and destroy country-wide infrastructural.
The slow approach is precisely because they want to avoid damaging large swathes of the country and causing massive civilian casualties. This way the damage remains relatively restricted to the area around the line of contact, and the casualties are overwhelmingly military. This conflict has one of the lowest civilian to military casualties in any modern conflict. I won't even compare it to Gaza because that is not a war, it's a genocide, but even something like the Iraq war, the Afghanistan war, the Syrian civil war, the Vietnam war, the Korean war, etc. all had way, way higher ratios of civilian casualties.
If they went all out in the way you suggest that would be a sure recipe for turning the population of Ukraine against Russia more efficiently than a decade of the anti-Russian Banderite propaganda has done. Ukraine right now is struggling with a huge desertion problem and a lack of volunteers so serious that they are having to resort to insanely abusive forced mobilization practices. If Russia launched a campaign against the civilian infrastructure all they would be doing is motivating millions more Ukrainians to fight, and that would prolong the conflict far more than the current careful and methodical approach.
At the end of this Russia doesn't want to have a destroyed country full of radicalized Russia hating people on their border. They want to have a friendly or at least neutral, semi-functional, stable country whose population has grown disillusioned with the entire Banderite project. Meanwhile on the front they continue to eliminates the most radicalized and fanatic ones who can't be turned.
Russia is still a capitalist country that uses its military for its own interests, not anti-fascism
Both can be true.
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Hassan has credibility because he's so damn analytical and not immediately convinced by what the story is
I didn't mean to imply he has no credibility. Actually, I quite like him. He's good TV at a bare minimum, but yeah he's got a great analysis of current events and he seems like a good guy. But I do think his usefulness will always be limited by his reformism.
Really though, I'm more concerned about his personal safety than I am about his politics right now. (Hence the parasocial comment.) I guess I spent too much time complaining in the previous comment, but I seriously think he needs to leave the country for his own safety (well really he should have left when he was stopped at the border, but again he's stubborn/braver than me).
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Who exactly poses a physical threat to his safety? Hasan has been swatted before I think, so do you mean something like that?
Are you saying he'll be taken out by the feds, cops, or an individual assassin?
Hasan has been swatted before I think, so do you mean something like that?
I mean that doesn't really make him immune to the dangers of getting swatted again?
feds, cops, or an individual assassin?
Possibly all of the above. Could be a lone wolf, could be a cop or a fed and then they pin it on a lone wolf. He has a lot of ops unfortunately.
The most likely threat to Hasan is a non-fed individual influenced by one of the anti-Hasan hate communities. Just takes one person who is in crisis or extraordinarily parasocial to take the anti-Hasan slander seriously. Many of the people leading the slander campaigns know they are inciting violence implicitly and some are fairly straightforward about it.
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Hasan getting whacked would be a huge blunder for the fascist because they flourish by posing as the victims. Kirk got whacked by a groyper yet they're able to blame this on the radical left because it's a plausible reality that he could have gotten killed by the radical left, they can pretend to be in the high ground by preaching the no place for political violence choir.
imo if the hit succeeds in Nick Fuentes becoming mainstream, moderate right wingers, like Kirk, are gonna be the targets to further push their followers to white nationalism.
Still yeah he will always be in danger because stochastic terrorism is, well, stochastic.
Hasan getting whacked would be a huge blunder for the fascist because they flourish by posing as the victims. Kirk got whacked by a groyper yet they're able to blame this on the radical left because it's a plausible reality that he could have gotten killed by the radical left, they can pretend to be in the high ground by preaching the no place for political violence choir.
Not really? The fascists and liberal media have no shame or intellectual consistency. They would highlight what Hasan said about 9/11, claim he advocated for violence, point to pictures of him streaming with a gun in frame, frame him as a radical America hating, white man hating commie and say though violence isn't the answer it's totally understandable why some sweet normal, not at al political killer covered in 1488 and swastika tats would be driven by Hasan's HATE SPEECH into killing him in a fit of passion. (That or they cast it as a senseless killing in the vein of school shooters and nothing to see here folks) They'd slander him like this, cast it like this, and immediately bury his death in the same way they bury and stop talking about school shooting victims within 24 hours.
In a bourgeois press owned reactionary society like the US there is no need for consistency, naked hypocrisy buried under cherry picking, half truths, omissions, and slander buries the truth and pushes forward the desired narrative framing.
At most a few liberals while condemning Hasan in their first breath will call for more gun control and less political violence to which the right will respond with a middle finger and outraged screaming about Charlie Kirk and attempted assassinations on Trump before veering into talking about "violent protestors from the left" who target the "brave" ICE and local police proving the left is the truly violent one. The then cowed liberals will fall bashfully silent and apologize the next day for undermining the tragedy of Charlie Kirk's death.
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am i the only insane idiot here or didn't that guy get killed by a fascist?
what is this gaslighting by these people now.
Yes, kirk got whacked by a groyper, followers of Nick Fuentes, because they saw Kirk as an obstacle in the pipeline to white nationalism. Fuentes instantly capitalized on the event and had his most viewed stream ever, gaining thousands of followers. Now X is overflowing with Nick Fuentes clips, steering moderate MAGA followers towards white nationalism.
The Destiny harassment group has stitched together several old out-of-context and straight cut-and-clipped videos of Hasan to make it look like he's calling for the murder of Republicans, it's outright video fabrication and slander
They're posting these videos everywhere on Twitter trying to trigger MAGA hats, and Elon has been boosting these posts
it's insane they are even able to divert from the truth this way.
The truth is the biggest obstacle to right wing beliefs. They want nothing more than to make the truth and reality utterly incomprehensible and unapproachable to the average person.
Not-The-Onion: Worlds most divorced Dad upset an youthful Himbo! Demands arrest!
So many signs that Hasan is going to be a victim of stochastic terrorism with no apparent proactive movement from his end.
I remember when some fascist tried to shoot up a live Red Nation gathering. And keep in mind that the Red Nation as an Indigenous media collective is nowhere near as famous as Hasan (although one of them appeared on Fox as "DEI woke white-hating professor"). And the only reason why nobody died was because the dumbass's pistol jammed and there were unarmed security in the form of big burly Indigenous men who chased the fash out of the immediate vicinity. Had those security not been there, the fash would've had the presence of mind to unjam his pistol and resumed putting rounds into people. And as a final point, the Red Nation is a collective of people while Hasan is just one person. The Red Nation will still persist even if a single member gets murdered, but Hasan the Twitch channel is obviously toast if Hasan gets murdered or survives but has to live with debilitating disabilities for the rest of his life.
It's a sink or swim moment. And Hasan will either rise up to the challenge or completely capitulate. But he will not and cannot return to the status quo.
If he gets arrested, I want to see him immediately released on cash bail. The hogs hate cash bail so much it would be funny.
Hasan was the Liberal Driller all along
they should do it, that would be funny.
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